On most of these threads, it seems to me that it attracts the least mature people - perhaps in years or only mentality or perhaps both.

To demand pictures by a certain date and then claim scam if they don't comply with your childish impatient stance is just fail.

Bitcoinultra's situation right now is that they have opened their order books in a "pre-order" fashion despite stating that they would not do so. This does not make them a scam. To not comply with an adolescent's demands to produce pictures of a working rig by a certain day does not make them a scam.

My own view is that I will wait until there is any further updates from the company if they want my money, if they don't provide updates then I will continue to go elsewhere. I see "V4Vendetta" ordered as soon as there was a picture of a blue box, and now has already requested a refund. This shows immaturity and an increased likelihood (in my view) of getting scammed in the future. I am not picking on you, I am just saying what I see.

This thread is now almost entirely filled with people who are flaming - and I suspect calling and emailing the company every single hour of the day for updates which causes delay for everyone and again shows how childish people can be regardless of age.

I suggest that you put your parents' credit cards back in their wallets for now and wait for further developments.....

J