You said what I would say, man. I did not pay attention to JianTian or JingTian, just know from the post here it is called JT miner.

and to Ronin1, thanks for you input. Guessing who is associate with who only make things complicated and misleading, on the contrary, if we focused on the facts instead of the promises from miner companies and opinion from individuals, we will see things clearer and simpler. My philosophy is just focusing on what's done and what's the fact, not what's is saying and who's saying. When I watching politician debates on TV, I feel amused most of the time as they bla bla bla against the obvious facts. When I read a post here, I try to ignore who posted and pay attention to what's is said and what's the fact, which makes me more objective and less emotional. This is free forum, we are trying to screen out the promising miner providers for us, nothing personal.