I'm sometimes reading this topic, occasionally, and it seems always the same. Actually, its getting worse.
Like with almost everything: plenty of ideas, but no solution whatsoever.
As for this specific topic, it basically seems like the level of the misery is just increasing.
My advise: talk less, do more - it will solve all your problems, I promise!
Why do people even care to waste their time on pointless discussions?
I could have saved so much of my own time, if I had only known an answer to such a stupid question

I guess it must be some kind of entertainment, like watching TV, because I cannot believe someone would be wasting his time on this kind of pointless forum arguments, though still thinking that he actually somehow helps the mankind.
We are talking about tens of pages of a "technical" topic (and not only this one!), lasting for years, with practically no actual applications - it must be just an entertainment, what else?
Unless it's a new kind of science: a theoretical engineering... Though I would still rather count it as a stupid kind of philosophy
