People who make these arguments have clearly never heard of Northern Europe
Those countries are not socialist.
This lie was started by Bernie Sanders and just won't die among the left extremists in the United States.
Socialism is a dirty cuss word and nobody should be promoting it, least of all our own senators.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/bernie-sanders-wrong-democratic-socialism-sweden-everywhere-else-ncna1158636Contrary to the prevailing narrative, the success of Nordic countries like Sweden — as measured by relatively high living standards accompanied by low poverty, with government-funded education through university, universal health coverage, generous parental-leave policies and long life spans — precedes the contemporary welfare state.