derivation path in electrum is 141, because is bip32?
BIP141 is the Segwit specification, most wallets actually use 84 as the index for Segwit. Electrum uses the derivation path as stated, though saving the seed should generally be enough. Only Electrum will be able to restore the seeds and given that it has a version byte, the derivation path wouldn't matter all that much.
89 would be if it were bip39?
my seeds are bip 32.. native segwit.
No. BIP39 is the mnemonic standards for some wallets, Electrum doesn't use BIP39.