I agree its all semantics and who you want to believe at the end of the day. For me idc if you are working in a prop firm or from a remote island. What matters to me is what you can pull out from the market on the daily basis. If you can pull out more than 3Rs a day every single day. You are a professional trader in my books but if you are sitting in a prop firm and barely making 1.5Rs - 3Rs, you still aren't there yet. Also never trust the boys working for the banks, they are there to manipulate you out of the game. Keep an eye for my post, i think you will like it As always Good luck and Good trading.