No need for hostility,~
You actually explained yourself why there is.
This is a really old thread and I found your post through a google search after suspecting shady business myself~
You've just necrobumped an old thread and given Google a lot more false information to index for the person to find.
You should be grateful. You and the other guy simply bickered and never truly came to a consensus. If anyone else happens to wonder the same thing, the resolution based on actual findings and not heresy is here for posterities sake. You're welcome prick.