1)I think they are a clearcut short term solution that would knock this off the map of the world if the world had a 95% vax rate.
2) I think none of us know what the long term effects of this vax will do to our bodies. It will take 10 years to find out.
I don't think so at all. The people who are against the vaccine, at the beginning said that those vaccinated were going to die by the millions. Some of this forum said that too many people were dying already because of the vaccine months ago. A claim that is not supported by the evidence. Now the discourse has changed. Since people are not dying by the millions because of the vaccine they have moved on to saying they will die within 3-5 years.
I looked for information some time ago and the vaccines that have caused problems, historically the negative side effects have appeared within a few days to a few months. I can't find now the article that was detailed with all types of vaccines but
this one for example says the same thing:
"History tells us that severe side effects are extremely rare, and if they if do occur, they usually happen within the first two months."4) Ten years from now I think people will still argue over this. Even thought the math will show a clear cut difference in death rates for the vaxed vs the un vaxed.
I agree, as math already shows nowadays in:
Data on impact of vaccination programme and many other scientiphic studies.
I ONLY recently got the vax too, so I am not even suggesting that attempting critical-thinking would cause one outcome or another.
My getting the vax does not cause me some resentment regarding coming across seemingly contradictory information on the topic, and furthermore, I ONLY spent a small amount of time actually reading about the supposed propaganda pieces that are likely short of actual real science. Maybe some members here gave some better back and forth considerations, but whatever, sometimes personal circumstances are sometimes going to push a guy in one direction or another - in terms of considering how much his life might be inconvenienced by going along and getting along versus engaging in some kind of rebellion or avoidance or some in-between approach to the matter.
Of course, a lot of us already know that we get lied to a lot by the government and also by companies spouting out supposedly objective research results - so of course, those might well be factors to weigh above and beyond merely considering personal health/lifestyle circumstances.
I got the vax too. At the beginning I was also reluctant, and I agree with you that governments lie to us about many things, just like the pharmaceutical companies that seek the maximum economic benefit many times they are in too much of a hurry to bring something to the market and they bring out something harmful: "
Johnson & Johnson condemned to pay four billion euros to women with ovarian cancer"
Source.I could put many more examples. I believe that the coronavirus crisis could have been handled differently but it has been done the way it has been done and we cannot go backwards.
In October 2020 the BLM came out with an article skeptical of vaccines:
Will covid-19 vaccines save lives? Current trials aren’t designed to tell us But subsequently, as more trials were made, the BLM has brought out other articles showing the efficacy and safety of the vaccines. So, although I am skeptical and tend not to trust the government and pharmaceutical companies, I prefer to trust what the growing scientific evidence on the subject says.