This kind of reminds me of another friend of mine that does not purely hate Bitcoin, but just isn't educated on what is it really. I asked her once if she knew about Bitcoin and she was like "oh that one scam coin I hear a lot". I was like "bruh" moment there when I heard her first thoughts about it.

Thing is even those people you mentioned that have positive impacts to crypto do not even have a single idea to what the heck are they even saying. This is why most of the time, I stay away from Twitter and Reddit forum when it comes to discussing something pertaining Bitcoin or any sorts of crypto coins out there. There's a lot of toxicity outside this forum when it comes to crypto.