One of the statements above is false. Sweden in fact does have mass Covid vaccine rollout.
Indeed they didn't impose lockdown or do much mask wearing but events / get togethers WERE capped to 50 until April this year from what I know.

I'm not anti vax as such but even if you consider the entire UK population the media and government never mention the 98% of the population who contracted Covid and survived.
They are constantly wheeling out examples of how scary it is and how it is attacking young people. However if you look at weekly deaths they are for 80-90% still in the over 60s. And that is with mass vaccine rollout in those upper age ranges.

If only cancer had a 98% survival rate. It is less than 50%.
Yet you can still buy cigarettes after all this time. As long as you wear your mask when doing so hey? WTF!
The chance of developing lung cancer eventually from regular smoking is estimated to be over 11%. That seems quite a chance to take.
By all accounts NOT getting the Covid vaccine at all ages combined definitely seems like you would be running a MUCH lower risk from death of that particular disease.


Do young people need the Covid vaccines and will it help to achieve herd immunity? I'm not convinced.

It's great the vaccines exist because they seem to reduce number of deaths in those aged 70-80 and over. (That SEEMS to be the case, the real test will be this coming winter in the northern hemisphere) However vaxing a 12 year old with what is a vaccine that has not had multi year long investigations for a disease that mostly does no harm in youngsters seems COMPLETELY ridiculous to me.

Vaccine passports also seem mental. Not sure what the fuck is going on in Australia and France. They seem to have lost their minds.

We hear in the UK that the rise of cases (after mass vaccination in over 40s) was because of the delta variant. (Also in Israel now - both heavily vaxed countries)
But why did the case load drop off in India without mass vaccination where this variant started? Why did bodies stopped floating in rivers?


More importantly how do we move forwards at this point.

I would have liked to have seen a consensus for travel between countries that have mass vaccine rollout to be restarted WITHOUT testing, quarantining, proof of jabs or whatever.

But I guess that is not going to happen any time soon.