Re: Buff.bet unfairly closing account and consfiscating 399mbtc balance
Any chance you can crop your screenshots to only show the relevant parts? That makes your topic easier to review, and better for your own privacy (on background items). It helps to make your browser smaller before creating the screenshots.
You also show your last name in one of the screenshots.
Buff88 ignored most posts about this scam accusation in their topic, and continued to post large promotions to "make it disappear".
@GekkeBelg: Please leave negative feedback and create a Flag (from their Trust page) against Buff88 and eGoldgg. The former seems to be a Buff.bet representative, the latter has created their main topic and needs a Flag for a warning to show up in their topic. It certainly deserves a type 1 Flag, and possibly a type 3 Flag. The only doubt I have is that I'm not sure about the relations between the accounts involved.
Also note that eGoldgg was online today after being offline for more than 2 years, but didn't comment on this.
I'll quote my posts from their thread:
Side note: gambling regulation is meant to protect citizens from scammers, but in reality regulation is often used by shady sites as an excuse to scam players.
You also show your last name in one of the screenshots.
Buff88 ignored most posts about this scam accusation in their topic, and continued to post large promotions to "make it disappear".
@GekkeBelg: Please leave negative feedback and create a Flag (from their Trust page) against Buff88 and eGoldgg. The former seems to be a Buff.bet representative, the latter has created their main topic and needs a Flag for a warning to show up in their topic. It certainly deserves a type 1 Flag, and possibly a type 3 Flag. The only doubt I have is that I'm not sure about the relations between the accounts involved.
Also note that eGoldgg was online today after being offline for more than 2 years, but didn't comment on this.
I'll quote my posts from their thread:
@eGoldgg: you haven't been online in almost 2 years. As the creator of this topic, you may want to respond to GekkeBelg's post.
@Buff88: you're not doing yourself any favours by ignoring GekkeBelg and posting big promotional posts to hide his complaint.
This is what it looks like now: A player won, and you're trying to weasel out instead of paying him.
Let me guess: if a German user lost his funds, you won't return their deposits?
I'm curious: what's the relation between user eGoldgg, user Buff88 and website BUFF.bet? Is there any post or link to confirm they're officially affiliated? That's kinda important for Flag Support.
@GekkeBelg: you should create a proper Scam Accusation. I can't independently verify all your evidence, but I've seen no reason to doubt anything you've posted.
@Buff88: think very hard if scamming 399 mBTC is worth having this warning above every page of this topic:
Funny how I found this topic: Buff88 excluded GekkeBelg from his Trust list:
@Buff88: you're not doing yourself any favours by ignoring GekkeBelg and posting big promotional posts to hide his complaint.
This is what it looks like now: A player won, and you're trying to weasel out instead of paying him.
Let me guess: if a German user lost his funds, you won't return their deposits?
And now, today I requested another withdrawal and suddenly had to do another KYC. And this time after sending them all the documents, my account got closed and all funds confiscated (399mbtc). Stating this as reason:
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~ as a German resident, you are in breach of our T&C’s. Your account will be permanently closed
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all bets placed are in breach of the applicable law will be deemed void, and any deposits made to be refunded.
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Buff.bet Customer Support team
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all bets placed are in breach of the applicable law will be deemed void, and any deposits made to be refunded.
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Buff.bet Customer Support team
We do not accept customers from Germany with Fiat currencies, with crypto (we accept BTC,ETH,LTC) you can actually make an account 
I'm curious: what's the relation between user eGoldgg, user Buff88 and website BUFF.bet? Is there any post or link to confirm they're officially affiliated? That's kinda important for Flag Support.
@GekkeBelg: you should create a proper Scam Accusation. I can't independently verify all your evidence, but I've seen no reason to doubt anything you've posted.
@Buff88: think very hard if scamming 399 mBTC is worth having this warning above every page of this topic:
Funny how I found this topic: Buff88 excluded GekkeBelg from his Trust list:
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@Buff88: That's not how you should handle a scam accusation, nor will it make it go away. Please read LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system.Back to index
Buff88 Trusts these users' judgement:
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Buff88 Distrusts these users' judgement:
1. NEW ~GekkeBelg (Trust: awaiting update) (4 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
Buff88's judgement is Trusted by:
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~Buff88's judgement is Distrusted by:
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Germany will be removed from the registration form for crypto accounts shortly.
Thanks for admitting your website wasn't up to date.Quote
The answer to your question dated back 9 months ago, where our team said that crypto accounts might be registered from Germany, is not actually the case at this moment. We do not accept German players anymore even Crypto.
That's all fine, and you can of course change who can or can't play. But you should let them know BEFORE they win on your site. Now you're playing both sides: if someone wins, they can't withdraw, and if someone loses, you take their money too. There's a name for that: scamming.Quote
All information about the rules applying towards the gambling activity of the German citizens and related restrictions you can find out on the official site of the German authority.
That's also a lousy excuse. You can't expect people to check external sites, if you can't even keep your own site up to date. If German regulators really changed rules for your site, you should have instantly notified the players who confirmed to reside in Germany.Side note: gambling regulation is meant to protect citizens from scammers, but in reality regulation is often used by shady sites as an excuse to scam players.