Seems that El Salvador and Strike have found a lot of use cases for a lot of peeps who are hardly at all technologically sophisticated..
Custodial solutions Jay, are inferior to the power-to-the-people solutions, on chain or future solutions should provide.
Now you sound like a BIG blocker nutjob who is selectively nitpicking the contents of my post and coming to garbage and selective interpretations.
I have been attempting to be descriptive of what is going on in terms of both 1st layer and 2nd layer, and I don't feel any need to argue my points beyond my already having had sufficiently made them.
If you believe that there is something wrong with bitcoin or its current trajectory that includes lightning developments and other second layer solutions, including its combination of solutions then you likely have some kind of burden to point that out. I was just pointing to your assertion that seemed to be suggesting that lightning might not be adding value and to assert that from my perspective, I see some value happening through some of those mechanisms.. lightning, liquid and perhaps some other ongoing bitcoin and bitcoin-related happenings.
You guys can be devils advocates or skeptics all that you like.. it's not as if you are even attempting to assess the matter in any kind of way that shows extra utility and options being developed.. even if you personally might not be using those options.
I love Muun for what it’s worth. Now if we could part it out of the tracking device - that would be great.
You might have to explain more, for whatever that is worth.
People are going to do whatever they are going to do, including there might be (likely will be) various bitcoin related developments that are not currently popular that become more popular with the passage of time.