It's not the primary goal of blindmixer, but it's an additional benefit: Of course, the main reason to use blindmixer is to mix your coins.
No one is arguing against this. I stated this risk in the OP multiple times.

I don't see any centralized exchanges offering provable- privacy/nologs on your in- and outputs? We're not at all comparable, not in the slightest? Sorry if this is your main takeaway from this thread i'm honestly confused if it's us who worded it poorly or if you just do not at all understand the purpose of this service.


Again, this is not the main focus of blindmixer. Of course there are other more secure lightning wallets out there. that's not at all the point. Should I rephrase it to read less enthusiastically and more like a footnote? It's just an addition that's easy for people to use who aren't too familiar with lightning. Ideal for beginners who would like to enjoy privacy without too much hassle. I myself thought it seemed pretty neat for a mixer to have that property?

The custodian can also run off with your funds at any point, indeed, as any other centralized mixer can. I think we are making this very clear in the OP, no?

Though this is worded a bit poorly because indeed, you need to trust us blindly as a collective to not run off with your funds, but you can also prove that we are acting dishonestly in most if not all cases. For example say we sneakily changed the wipedate: if you go to your config (https://mixer.blindmixer.com) you will see both a hashed version of your config + signature + original acknowledged wipedate that is signed using the public key mentioned in the OP (after the #)
I don't think you quite understand what we are offering and that the implications of that (real privacy) are exactly what can result in such a scenario. Precisely because we do not know which coins belong to you is the reason you can get them back.

I think you also fundamentally misunderstand what it means to "mix" your coins, or at least our definitions must differ significantly.

Really what (we think) it means to "mix" your coins (on-chain) is to create an uncertainty for any third party (or us) to conclusively say which inputs/outputs belong to you. This is partly explained in our FAQ:


Now we don't control this: How long until and what amounts you withdraw is entirely up to you, and largely with that your privacy.

^^An easier example is if we were to take 100 different inputs of amounts varying 0.01 - 1 btc of which some number belong to you, pile them all up. Now withdraw 0.1 BTC. Now what would the probability be that someone correctly guesses which inputs originally belonged to you? There's still a linked chain, in a sense you're getting your own inputs back.

So sorry, I will not allow you to portray us as a centralized* "no different than an exchange" "gambling" "gangster" "wallet", when really, we're a centralized mixer with provable privacy (you do not need to trust us not to keep any logs, unlike all other centralized mixers) and proveable honest communications.

(Okay, apart from gangsters... I guess you could call us gangsters given the lack of rep we have . We fully recognize it's good to be fearful.)

*In that regard we are absolutely no different than the service you are promoting, except with us you know that A. we don't can't keep logs. and B. we cannot dupe any individual user without it being provable. And of course we offer some additional features which we think are nice, but you seem to disagree. Unfortunate..

No one is forcing you to keep your coins with us. You can withdraw immediately after depositing. Just like any other centralized mixer there is indeed a risk we could exit-scam.

Not sure what this is supposed to prove either. Yes, we are a new service. You should treat us with caution as you would do with any other centralized entity. What, you wanted us to own this domain for several years? What exactly would that prove? I'm thoroughly confused.

Sorry if this post came off as harsh, not at all my intention. Just trying to clear up as much confusion as possible. And so yes, I fully understand that it might feel risky for people to entrust us with their funds. That's completely understandable and we also would've rather seen it differently, though the very nature of this scheme requires at the very least us to have custody over your funds.

Again, we fully acknowledge that there might be future exploits/hacks, and that we as of yet don't have any sort of respected presence in the community, and with that the perceived and real risk of depositing funds with us. Don't think we're at all sugarcoating it.

We also understand that there's not much reason for the community to support such a new project as us when there's no real monetary reward for doing so, so we'll think about that as well.