No sign of them on the bitshopper.de site

I'm checking every day and no update yet. If they are due to 419 around now I'm expecting another few days for them to get over to us in the UK/EU. But it would be handy to get our orders in now. I really don't want to miss out now my R606 has died.
I emailed them and their reply was "We’re a bit late. I expect them to arrive here still in October. "
To which I asked if we could pre-order or did we have to wait till they are in stock.