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Re: Let's talk about BTC.SX and MT.GOX
by
Hodor_keeper_of_the_light
on 22/03/2014, 15:33:00 UTC
We have highlighted 72 trades that you made with an 'Order Stop' beyond the recommended sizes. As a result, you posted a loss on certain positions beyond the collateral posted in the initial deposit. These losses have been totalled as highlighted and deducted from pending withdrawals.

They didn't even have Order Stop(stop loss) at December.
Recommended size? I've seen the only size I could consider as recommended. At their FAQ. At Trading Examples. It is 1000 points.
When does recommended(when there is even no recommended) become obligative and what gives them right to steal money like that? Piece of crap excuse, if you ask me.
Though, their FAQ clearly says:
It is important to remember that losses can also be multiplied however losses will never exceed your deposit.
(Deposit is the sum dedicated from Balance to open trade. Balance can be withdrawed, it's totally yours)
And they've taken my WITHDRAWED money without any doubt. Kept them for so long with no explanations and stolen it right away.
And 0.6 BTC arrived. From 16.8 BTC sent.
16.8 sent from 5 different accounts belongs to 5 different people they've linked up together coz mostly we communicated with them from 1 mail about all the acc's(the way they answer once in a century it's useless to email them from different mails, tho we did it as well, but didn't even had 1 answer to any other mail). Sent to 1 btc-e account coz we wanted to withdraw with wire transfer in order to pay less for transfer.
Even tho I mailed them with all that explanations and parts of their own FAQ(it appears they didn't read it at all), I had no respond since 27 feb. I kept mailing support@btc.sx, press@btc.sx, admin@btc.sx, I've written to all of their team members I could find at facebook. Only CTO have read my messages, but he just muted me.
founder:https://www.facebook.com/josephkwlee
CTO:https://www.facebook.com/james.turner.3532
press:https://www.facebook.com/george.samman.1

1000 points, that's what larin have used. That's what is written in your FAQ. Also, your FAQ says about "losses will NEVER exceed your deposit. There is nothing written about "too big stop loss is exploit and we will take all your and your friends money".


http://postimg.org/image/rk659w9l7/full/


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Through use of his exploit, in these trades he profited by 17.9 btc.

Where losses incurred costed btc.sx additional collateral, this was deducted from his profits (15.6 btc).

The funds which larin claims to be his are all profits he gained from the exploit. We have not taken a satoshi more and honoured remaining withdrawals against his account.

All the trades remained opened for 1 day, the only 2 trades to be opened for a 2 days brought only (-deposit). The 100$ stop loss would make no difference with that 1000pt stop loss. So I see no use of the thing you call "exploitation", no extra profit or something like that. That's why your reason for taking money is called "imaginary". Your interface allowed to put that kind of stop loss, your FAQ have 1000pt stop loss in Trading Examples. If your system and FAQ differs from IMAGINARY RULES FROM YOUR HEAD it's only your problem. You had daily fundings and took deposits. You claim all those money to be earned be using "exploit". That's LIES.

You didn't even have STOP LOSS at DECEMBER, what kind of "additional collateral" are you talking about?

LOL, yeah, Answer to larin please, so what? You have been ignoring this situation for too long.

16.8 sent from 5 different accounts belongs to 5 different people they've linked up together coz mostly we communicated with them from 1 mail about all the acc's(the way they answer once in a century it's useless to email them from different mails, tho we did it as well, but didn't even had 1 answer to any other mail). Sent to 1 btc-e account coz we wanted to withdraw with wire transfer in order to pay less for transfer.

This is also untrue. See below.


http://postimg.org/image/zcvvz24ub/

I also have emails from you informing us of your 5 accounts.

So what? An excel table made and screenshotted by you does only prove that you linked those accounts together. That's what we are talking about. Nothing more.
Those are your proves??
Email sent to you was to inform about accounts of friendly people who all have that kind of problem(with no money recieved) who have sent BTC to 1 address at btc-e to withdraw with less fee, tho it didn't involve such details, at that moment we didn't know we should've share those details, but after TONS of correspondence informing you about different people(not 1 person) - you decided to ignore that.
What is untrue?

The community should also know that larin will not stop at any cost to undermine our efforts to run a business as transparently as we can.

Ignoring tons of users(not just involved in this situation) is transparently? Ignoring tons of correspondence for a month is transparently? Ignoring information about "different acc's - different people" is transparently? Stealing money for imaginary reasons is transparently?
Blocking at the middle of conversation at facebook is transparently?
At facebook we tried to inform you in all ways that accounts belong to different people - all we had is "it has been already dealt with" and blockage.

Yep, we will undermine your efforts to run a business FRAUDULENT, your IGNORE made us to.
So, you're still claimed as THIEF.