Re: Ledger Card Honeypot

Quote from: suchmoon on Today at 02:35:15 PM

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 11:35:55 AM

Of course, funding cards with crypto is only a temporary solution while shops don't accept crypto directly. Give it time

I would argue that these types of cards are counterproductive to the long term goal of having BTC/LN/etc accepted directly. It gets tangled up in the perpetual fiat nonsense of centralization, KYC, card fraud, etc. The Visa/MC duopoly get the card processing fees so we're basically subsidizing competitors of Bitcoin payment systems, along with entities that aren't exactly the best representatives of what Bitcoin is about (Binance, Coinbase, Ledger, ...).

Maybe. But I have some hope left: shop owners won't accept LN if there are barely any customers who use it. But creditcards are widely accepted already, so if creditcards temporarily help more users to pay with crypto, it might lead to the situation where more and more users actually pay with crypto. And if that's the case, it suddenly becomes interesting for shop owners to cut out the middle man that takes a percentage out of each transaction, and accept LN directly.
Maybe I'm dreaming, but I'm still hopeful

I don't really consider it subsidizing competitors: Bitcoin gives the freedom to use it in different ways. Creditcard companies are now joining because there's money to be made, and maybe because they know they can still get an early adopter advantage before they're too late.