Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision
by
kna
on 13/12/2021, 00:09:19 UTC
A short explanation about BitCoin:
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Craig Wright signed messages from block 1 proving he was Satoshi to numerous people who vouched for him including Gavin Andresen, Ian Grigg, Jon Matonis and others.
I am getting sick of answering a lot of questions over and over from newbs in this sub who don't understand these things and are having trouble shaking their CDS. Here you can see Ian Grigg, Gavin Andresen, and Jon Matonis, among others all received signed messages from block 1. On top of that they have vouched for Craig not only for cryptographic evidence but also social evidence which is arguably a much harder standard to prove.
I have also noticed that so many are clueless about facts and fail to research and just parrot talking point propaganda that they believe the signed message released by Craig in 2018 here is the same one given to Gavin and others. It is not. That signature and the signatures given to Gavin and others are completely different events. The second signature event is put up by trolls often to say the Gavin signature event was debunked, which shows their complete lack of understanding. It is known that the second signature event has doubt as csw says, but a message could be revealed later which proves its authenticity.
Edit (4-22-21): I would like to clarify an error in this post, Ian Grigg never received a signed message from block 1, as he has clarified here, instead he was vouching for Craig Wright as being Satoshi based on "direct knowledge", which is probably even more powerful evidence.
FucktheCaball 1 point 18 days ago If BSV is the so called “real Bitcoin” why is it so low? I’m just finding out there was a split. What made it different and why don’t exchanges like Binance, and Crypto.com not hold it?
Truth__MachineCRYPTOREBEL@HANDCASH.IO Yes its low because of censorship and delisting campaigns against BSV. Basically when BSV first split we went by the BCH ticker, and we were still on a lot of exchanges for a while, but then when Amaury Sechet and Roger Ver usurped BCH and stole the ticker, BSV split off and many exchanges used it as an excuse to delist BSV. Many of them had only supported BCH reluctantly, and BCH had a lot of community support in early days which forced their hand. But over time they were able to loosen the grip and get rid of BSV for good. Ledger and Trezor also refused to support it. Binance supported BSV for a while, but then when Craig Wright sued Peter McCormack for defamation, Binance CEO CZ went on twitter and threw a fit and said any more of this and we delist, then he delisted BSV to try to hurt BSV because he does not like Craig Wright. Since then Craig has won his lawsuit with Peter McCormack. Some other exchanges also trolled BSV and did twitter polls asking twitter if they should delist BSV and basically everyone was mocking and trashing on BSV and every BSVer. But despite all those attacks we still are thriving, and eventually we will triumph. Dr. Wright is now sending letters to Coinbase, Kraken, BlockStream and others warning them not to pass off BTC as a fake Bitcoin anymore. So there is likely going to be legal action to get the Bitcoin brand back for BSV. What they have done to BSV is not acceptable and is shameful, but we are not backing down.
FucktheCaball Wow. This is crazy I didn’t know all this I just thought it forked because of changes and the real BTC was that . the real BTC. It sounds like a inside coupe . Not to sound like a conspiracy theorist Im going to buy some. I have Poloniex so I’ll get it there.
FucktheCaball This is crazy. The cabal has their hands in everything and they ruin everything good for the small guy. I bought some BSV I notice the link had dollar vigilantes Jeff B in there I’m going to go watch that video. It’s like a big conspiracy but I’m the type that do t believe in that many Coincidences. Thank you for informing me Is there somewhere I can get more info on all this? Or maybe I’ll just follow you, you seem well informed
Truth__MachineCRYPTOREBEL@HANDCASH.IO Yes Jeff has been somewhat open minded, but a lot of the anarchists in the space have decided that Craig Wright is the enemy, so he has tended to side with BCH more as well which I think is a mistake. I think Vigilante Crypto also works with Jeff and he supports BSV despite a lot of disagreement from some of his colleagues in terms of BSV. A lot of people have been swayed by the narratives in the space, and the intimidation mobs. Its like if you support BSV you will be a victim of cancel culture and attacked and deplatformed and shunned. But when you look deeper you will find the truth, there is a reason people don't want you to look at it.
FucktheCaball So what is Bitcoin cash from? Please excuse my ignorance on the subject. I’m just kinda confused and you seem to know ALOT.
Truth__MachineCRYPTOREBEL@HANDCASH.IO Basically Bitcoin Core developers were funded by blockstream and took over the development, sometimes in a very hostile way. Satoshi's quotes on bitcointalk and early emails were clear, Bitcoin would scale on chain and use SPV (simplified payment verification) as described in whitepaper. Users don't need to run nodes as the system scales according to Satoshi's quotes. But Core says we need to keep 1MB blocks forever so everyone can run a node forever. This was the disagreement and usurpation. Eventually Core added segwit instead of a blocksize increase, so we had no choice but to preserve the ledger and split off, so we supported Bitcoin Cash, which split from BTC-Core in August 2017. The split occured right after segwit was guaranteed to be activated on BTC. We raised the blocksize to 32MB and started scaling. Baiscally BSV is the real Bitcoin Cash and the real Bitcoin. Over time we tried raising the blocksize again to 128MB but the BCHABC devs blocked it and tried adding changes to the protocol like CTOR instead which violates the whitepaper description of chronological ordering of transactions. They lied and said they would raise the 32MB limit, and to this day they still have small blocks and their blocksize is actually shrinking. BSV had to split off again to avoid their usurpation of the protocol, so the BSV ticker was created in November 2018. But just because the ticker changes from, BTC to BCH to BSV, its all the same original Bitcoin from our perspective. BSV is the only system following Satoshi's vision and the whitepaper. Now BSV mines world record 2GB blocks, 2000x the size of BTC, proving it can scale for world adoption with small fees.
