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Board Wallet software
Re: Possible Compromised Laptop With Seed in Password Manager?
by
jerry0
on 14/12/2021, 07:06:42 UTC
How you do protect yourself in these situations?
Don't use Google
This is a big one for me. When I stopped using Google, it delivered better results than the alternatives, but I still switched for privacy reasons. However, recently I sat at another person's PC, which used Google by default and man, those results are hideous. Not only are the first few results ads; but also visually pretty well disguised. And lots of the actual results are totally trash and obviously paid to get those high rankings. While not actually being labelled as ads at all!
I can see how it's easy to misclick on some of those when looking for innocent stuff.

However - and I'm making an assumption here - it also depends what you're searching for. While this should all be common sense, obviously when looking for example for cracked software and other kinds of piracy, the probability is higher that someone is going to try to grab your money another way. I sincerely doubt you will get scammer links when sincerely looking just for recipes or technical questions online. Of course I can only judge this as someone using DuckDuckGo and Startpage; it's possible that Google will show you scam links in top positions when looking for recipes. But on the engines I use, I would almost guarantee the results are clean.

Also, after a while on the net, you should already see from the URL if it's something familiar, normal-looking or if it looks fishy. Like, the actual domain name, for instance. Above all search results (also in Google; just checked via Incognito window), you see it; and you also see the whole link when hovering.

Long story short: this should all be considered standard, basic precautions when surfing the web; but I guess some people don't want to bother. Then it's on them.

I also agree that a few extensions like uBlock Origin and HTTPS Everywhere are adviseable; some scammer sites don't get a certificate (or don't want to - since usually proof of ID is needed) and Origin removes some scammy shit like ads on Google by default, I think. Depends on your lists. Of course also great for privacy due to tracker blocking, but that's another story.

You said you have a hardware wallet? What stops you from using it?
He already said that he invests heavily in shitcoins so shitty that Ledger doesn't even have apps for them in their list of 1300+ coins.
It also seems like he just has a ton of different coins and I just discovered the other day that you can basically just install a handful of coins onto a Ledger Nano S, even if it 'supports' hundreds.
It's totally misleading that Ledger writes on their websites how Nano S is supporting 1100+ coins and app to 6 apps installed on your device, but in reality you can't install more than 2 or 3 apps.
Yes i do have a nano ledger.  The issue is lot of the coins i have and the seeds, they do not support the coin.  If they did, i would transfer every single coin of mine that has a seed phrase into nano ledger.

To be honest, if you're dabbling with these kinds of coins; while it's not my topic of interest, from what I know, these are used as very-short-term investments. Meaning, you buy a bunch, if they skyrocket, you insta-sell and then go to the next one. So, while I'm super duper pro-cold storage, hardware wallets, and all that; it may be financially smarter to keep them on an exchange so you can sell quicker. It also seems to me that a (reputable!!!) exchange might even be a safer custodian of those coins than someone keeping the seeds in the password manager.
Just an idea.



I had no idea using google is bad.  I been using it for years.  Yes i heard lot of scammer sites appear on google with those ads.  So which search is the best to use then?  You say duckduckgo and startpage.  So are these the best two?  I always used google because it was simple and clean looking site etc.  Yea its very easy to misclick stuff on google.


Well if you look for an answer to a technical question... how would google not post a bad site at the top?  Imagine say you want to find a link to an actual copy of windows from microsoft or a driver and then find it but it was some scammer getting that link to the top of google.  Then aren't you screwed when you search for it and click on it?  Yes the food recipe thing i mentioned... im sayin surely its possible for someone to post something like that?  Imagine looking for food recipe and then it opens up to be an ad for crypto and it might be malware etc.


What do you mean check incognito model on google the link.. you will see.  Can you explain what you mean by this exactly?


You say


uBlock Origin and HTTPS Everywhere are adviseable




So download both of these programs into your browser then?  So what about adblock plus? That is what i use for chrome and thought that is good for it. 


So the ideal setup is which web browser?  And having both of those two things you mentioned?  But that will protect you from almost everything?