ok this should be fun

lets start bottom first
Rath used one example of 1 transaction(that was RBF enabled by the way) to persuade that transactions are 4cents..
yet the block in question of that example had an average transaction cost of $1.79
the average transaction fee for the last year has been over $2. and in the last 3 years has seen fee's of upto $60

as for me saying the lightning network is not the bitcoin network.. its not.
the N of LN pretty much explains its a different network.

i know i know LN supporters dont like me undoing their hard work of their strange PR campaigns, where they try to sell LN as being bitcoin2.0.. but tough luck

what they need to learn is they might have a better PR campaign if they actually explained the risks (for user awareness) explained the differences of why its not bitcoin network(so that they can advertise the niche need)

i do get it, i fully understand that a certain group of other network users want to tag themselves onto bitcoin fame to win instant trust..
but put it into this context:
if faketoshi was to create an altnet that bridges to multiple coins, including bitcoin. and faketoshi advertised his network as bitcoin2.0. i can guarantee you that the debates would begin debunking that branding