i do understand many nuances. gathering by the group mindset who believe that LN is bitcoin.
I honestly can't categorize this question to neither black or white. It's a misleading question that is interpreted differently by each individual. You're asking if LN is Bitcoin. In which terms? Network-wise? Of course they are not the same. Consensus-wise? Of course they are not the same. However, if I use Lightning I do use Bitcoin. The currency is the same. The way that transactions are accomplished is changed.
Also stop using these idiotic terms. Don't picture that you're shutting our mouths while we're crying, please.
funny part is you answered that question.. you then cried by adding in another opinion you wanted to set.
Funny Ridiculous part is that it wasn't an opinion, but a fact.