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Re: [self-moderated] Is LN Bitcoin? franky1: About scaling, on-chain and off-chain
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franky1
on 17/01/2022, 15:06:27 UTC
find route(node gossip), access fee's accept particular route(channel gossip). have destination accept. hops response back down the path... then commit

You can remove "find route(node gossip), assess fee's, accept particular route(channel gossip)" as Lightning nodes constantly send/receive gossip and build a local map of the whole network. They use it to calculate payment paths.

Another simple question for you. How do they response back then? What's the message they use? You used to say "funding_locked", but you now know that it's sent only to signalise that the funding transaction has reached enough confirmations.

1. "you can remove"... "lightning nodes constantly send/receive gossip"
so its not removed. but thanks for admitting these messages happen

2. if you remove find route assess fees accept route.... gues what.. you have no route.
i know your going to say the node has a list of stuff it received before making a payment. but.. unless it looks at the gossip messages and asses the fees and then chooses a route, it cant then use it.

3. i never said that they used funding locked as messages.
i said they send messages, where there are many different types of messages. and then gave an example for whichever scenario

4. turbo send a 'funding locked' message even without the funding transaction being confirmed.
because LN does not use actual blockchain transaction template edits to communicate. it uses node messages of many types

YOUR the one pretending everything is done via editing a blockchain transaction templates output(HTLC)