The main issue is other coins I invest in don't expect anything from me, I invest and let the team do the work, they have a job to do to make the coin work and I have my own career to sort out. I help by investing. With Gulden the community is expected to make this work but I look at Florin and the community is not expected to do work. I smell double standards.

I can pump the price to 50 sat but will that Gulden dev reward go to the florin market? I don't know, their is no transparency. We have to go on blind trust, ofc I can't say this on the Gulden slack or I will join the ban club.