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Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]
by
Veleor
on 16/04/2022, 06:30:14 UTC
Or Russian propaganda is lying and they haven't really destroyed that many - if any - TB2s, as evidenced by Russian forces constantly being embarrassed by said drones.

It is likely that Russia may exaggerate its achievements in terms of the number of destroyed Ukrainian military equipment. But it may also be that Ukraine received a fresh batch of Turkish TB2's.
As far as is known, on March 29, 2022, peace talks between Ukraine and Russia were held in Istanbul.
After them, one of the Ukrainian negotiators posted a photo with the CEO of Baykar, which produces these famous drones. Maybe there they agreed on new supplies. But of course this is just a guess.


https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-official-poses-with-bayraktar-ceo-calls-drones-super-weapons-2022-3



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The strategy of the 'defenders' did indeed seem to be to use multiple civilian buildings and keep the civilians hostage in them while doing so.  At least that's my analysis based on the footage I've seen and the pretty much universal testimony of the liberated civilians.
Source? Please, do not say it comes from any Russian Ministry pleaaaase...
Not really about the hostages, however at the end of March 2022, the Washington Post published critical statements by Western experts that Ukrainian troops were placing military equipment in residential areas....
That is not your claim. You are saying that the Ukrainian army is helding civils hostage, which is something completely different.

Firstly, I didn't "claim" or "say" this. Read carefully the name of the author of the quote before labeling.

Secondly, not only Russian media reports, but also statements by Western military journalists become the basis for rumors about hostages.
For example, a video of the Italian journalist Giorgio Bianchi, who visited Mariupol in March, was published on the Internet.
In the video, he speaks in Italian, but the description contains English text. I think that those who understand Italian speech will be able to verify the authenticity of this quote.
If it's really his quote, but he's lying, then he should be punished for slander, and if he tells the truth, then his testimony should be included in the materials of a full-scale investigation. Isn't that how it should be?



Code:
"I stop people randomly and interview them. They all tell me they were locked in the basement and couldn't get out.
They were told everything was under control. Many say they shot at them to keep them from leaving.
They emptied the apartments to bring people down, when they themselves remained in the apartments to shoot. These are neo-Nazi battalions".
https://youtu.be/qsqKtqJlz4o



So... military experts from the Russian side are objective about how Russian missiles hit or do not hit buildings occupied with Ukrainian civils. Forum members are to be ignored because they would not be objective and do not know enough. And all coming from Putin's "Ministry of Dark Humour and Fantasyland tales".

You are again twisting the facts. I didn't claim that the Russian side necessarily tells the truth. I suggested looking for information in primary sources, and not through the prism of someone else's interpretations.