New interview with Mattias Desmet, this time by German finance advisor/youtuber Marc Friedrich.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXnOYkkhqfgDon`t get thrown off by the German link description - interview is in English with German subtitles. You do, however, get an extended taste of that sweet thick German accent.
Desmet does dive deep in on things like the importance of speaking out continuously, the downfalls of trying to construct a society purely by scientific/technocratic standards or the differences between authoritarianism and totalitarianism (which is where we are headed towards).