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Re: El Salvador has become the first country to make #Bitcoin legal tender! 🇸🇻
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jokers10
on 21/06/2022, 15:33:17 UTC
Well, I don't know.  It seems that you were the one who was making that kind of an educational connection because even to attempt to justify your use of the word "crypto" or "crypto currency," you were asserting that Salvadoreans need to be educated in a direction beyond focusing on bitcoin or at least it was not really clear what you meant.. when you seem to not even use the word bitcoin in your first post and just repeating a vague-ass concept of crypto or crypto currencies  and still I am not really very clear why you still believe that there is some kind of a practical justification to continue to want to talk about "crypto" when El Salvador had passed a bitcoin law and is trying to focus on bitcoin in its ongoing  implementation efforts, and it seems to me that we should not even need to devolve into this direction of needing to talk about why you seem to to believe that there is an ongoing need to justify the use of the term crypto in this discussion.. It continues to seem like a big ass distraction to me.

In your first post or even your subsequent posts, if you had just tried to focus on bitcoin, then I probably would not have said much of anything regarding your various continuous vague assertions about why why there are some needs to continue to talk about these kinds of matters in ways that go beyond various bitcoin focuses that seem to be carried out in El Salvador.  

Yes, I'm still sure that I used terms correctly in how I want to say. It is about term hierarchy: crypto is a general term for everything in this topic like technology, practical cryptography, economy specifics, way of using, cryptocurrencies etc.; bitcoin is one of cryptocurrencies and is a part of crypto. So if I want to say that people should understand the idea of decentralization for instance is is a part of basics of crypto and then bitcoin is an example (may be even an only one, not sure) of a true decentralized currency. If you learn just bitcoin you can know that it is a decentralized currency but to understand what is a decentralized currency as an idea you need wider education. And you can learn crypto basics focusing on bitcoin only, and it would be still incorrect to say that it is bitcoin learning, it is bitcoin focused learning of crypto basics.

And I already answered your question earlier that I don't mean altcoins promotion under crypto education. You are the only one who interpreted my words that way. It is strange to say obvious things each time: everyone knows that we are talking in a topic about that "El Salvador has become the first country to make Bitcoin legal tender".

Seems like a BIG so fucking what to me.  The efforts are ongoing in El Salvador.  The announcement of the plan to make bitcoin legal tender is just one year, and the actual implementation is only a bit more than 9 months.  There are other metrics to show that progress is being made in regards to more usage and more awareness of bitcoin.. so the mere fact that supposedly 71 are proclaiming that they have not benefitted may well hardly reflect much of anything except that a lot of outreach is still necessary.

Wow! You divided a group of arguments for highlighting a problem with not enough crypto education (yes, I still use this term as your arguments against it are not convincing for me) to start a new discourse! Knowing a problem is a first step for overcoming it. "The sleeping fox catches no poultry" and to get results a work for it should be done.

Your conclusion is that a majority of El Salvadoreans need to "learn about crypto" because they are too apathetic about the whole matter?  

Or could a very similar conclusion be possible if you just changed your proclamation to be about bitcoin?  

So in order for us to attempt to both stay on topic and attempt to talk about what is going on in El Salvador, you could say it like this:

"An overwhelming quantity of El Salvadoreans (maybe over 70%?) are too apathetic about bitcoin.  The El Salvadorean government must work harder to contribute towards their becoming more aware about the possible benefits of bitcoin."


Is that what you are wanting to say?

I could give less than two shits in regards to your desire to change the topic, because my reason towards responding to you in the first place had to do with your vague-ass use of the term crypto.. so I can figure out what the fuck you are talking about.. so now if you have changed the topic and you are largely talking about bitcoin and you want to say that you believe that the El Salvadorean government is failing in their educational and implementation efforts in regards to bitcoin, then no problem.. at least I have a wee bit better understanding regarding what points that you were wanting to make.  If that was what you were wanting to proclaim?

I answered your question previously. So it is not a problem of my words. It is a problem of your attitude to words: it seems that you don't want to clarify what did I want to say but to make me speaking up like you like. If you want so you need more convincing arguments, not imposing.

Oh?  You want to also say that you don't like governments and you do no trust them.  Maybe you will trust the politicians more if they start to talk in gobbledy-gook speak and start throwing out vague-ass terms, like crypto? when they mean bitcoin, no?  If they start using the term "crypto" and talking about "crypto", then that should hale you to trust the politicians more, no?

Using words correctly is a value.

I wasn't talking about any of that... or at least that was not my intention.. I was just trying to get you to clarify what you meant by crypto and how that relates to El Salvador's bitcoin law implementation.

Really? I answered already what do I mean and that I don't mean that basic crypto education have to contain altcoin promotion.

Ok.. Again. .you are proclaiming that the El Salvadorean government is not doing enough to contribute towards better bitcoin adoption/education, and you believe that the suggestions that you made in regards to a possible better course of action may well be helpful to them to make some better progress.  

Alright.. Hopefully some representative from El Salvador is reading your suggestions so that they can receive some potential wise counsel about how easy their solutions might end up being towards making better bitcoin adoption and better education of their populace.

Yes, it is what I said from the very beginning: to get better results in bitcoin adoption in El Salvador better education in this topic is needed as Salvadorians IMO (statistics shows that) don't have enough information about is's nature and benefits.