Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
By the way, cAPSLOCK: When Richy_T civilly disagreed with me based on his outdated information about Blockstream Satellite, and I corrected him, he kinda-sorta acknowledged his mistake; and he continued with a constructive discussion. Why do you dodge the factual correction of your very rude misinformation? 
Your are ill-informed. The trusted setup is dead. Gone with Halo2. Zcash’s Orchard shielded value pool, activated on mainnet in May 2022, has no trusted setup!
That is one of several major reasons why I declare the technology now “mature”: No more trusted setup. I put up with the trusted setup in Zcash myself, from its beginning until 2022; but I disliked it. I would not want to bring it to Bitcoin. The Zcash team also disliked it—actually, they hated it! Therefore, they spent years working on improved cryptography to get rid of it forever.
You also have not answered my point about a “dev tax”. cAPSLOCK, you hate the idea of a “dev tax”; and you insult altcoins that have a “dev tax”. So, over all these years that you have enjoyed Bitcoin, have you donated any nontrivial amounts to support Bitcoin Core development? Developers need to be paid somehow. I know that some big BTC HODLers are very good about this; they tend not to be the ones who sneer at little altcoins for having a “dev tax”, for they understand that developers need to be paid somehow.
ZCASH is a fucking trusted setup
Your are ill-informed. The trusted setup is dead. Gone with Halo2. Zcash’s Orchard shielded value pool, activated on mainnet in May 2022, has no trusted setup!
That is one of several major reasons why I declare the technology now “mature”: No more trusted setup. I put up with the trusted setup in Zcash myself, from its beginning until 2022; but I disliked it. I would not want to bring it to Bitcoin. The Zcash team also disliked it—actually, they hated it! Therefore, they spent years working on improved cryptography to get rid of it forever.
You also have not answered my point about a “dev tax”. cAPSLOCK, you hate the idea of a “dev tax”; and you insult altcoins that have a “dev tax”. So, over all these years that you have enjoyed Bitcoin, have you donated any nontrivial amounts to support Bitcoin Core development? Developers need to be paid somehow. I know that some big BTC HODLers are very good about this; they tend not to be the ones who sneer at little altcoins for having a “dev tax”, for they understand that developers need to be paid somehow.
There are many reasons Zcrap is not discussed here, not the least of which is respect for the WO.
If you want to shill it them start a thread in the appropriate section.
Who knows maybe you will make a convert or two if you do it appropriately.
I haven't even bothered to read your arguments about it as it is about as OFF TOPIC as it gets in the thread and is a complete SCAM in my view.
If you had bothered to read my arguments about it, then you would know that I was not shilling for Zcash. Rather, I am discussing my desire to bring zero-knowledge proof privacy to Bitcoin.
The technology was originally conceived for Bitcoin. Satoshi wished for zero-knowledge proofs. The Zerocoin project was a concept for Bitcoin. The original Zerocash paper presented a design for Bitcoin, before it was eventually turned into the Zcash altcoin. I have linked and/or quoted relevant history here, in the posts that you did not bother to read.
As things now stand, it is practically impossible to discuss zero-knowledge proofs for Bitcoin without discussing the technologies and the real-world experiences from the premier ZK proof privacy altcoin. I will not self-censor to avoid knee-jerk reactions: That would prevent me from discussing my longtime dream of having ZK proof privacy in Bitcoin. I have been wanting that since around 2013, according to my recollection of when I first heard of Zerocoin.