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Epic juggling and manipultations by Veleor.
A little math:
25th of March - 35 bayraktars out of 36 - destroyed (the Russian Ministry of Defense)
Before start of the war : 25 bayraktars at service.
Since February 24: + 50 bayraktars
Total - 75 bayraktars
So, at April 15th there still was around 72 drones.
So, I have just one question:
To those who didn't get it
From russian words russia destroyed 35 bayraktars by March 25
Ukraine at total has 75 bayractars (by 28th of June !!! )
Russia at April discovered 72 bayraktar drones.
35 + 72 = 107
It exceed total number of ukrainian bayraktars even from future delivers (because 75 is number at 28th of June, again)
This is not "ukrainian channel". This is russian telegram channel is trying to mimic ukrainian source.
Two main proofs:
1. Russian nasionalists consider it as russian. Here is channel "Bulba de thrones" and his quote:
https://t.me/bulbe_de_trones/1108
This is not his frist post with such fun fact
2. Ukrainian consider this channel as Russian intelligence. Infromation from ukrainian Center countering Disinformation (ЦЕНТР ПРОТИДІЇ ДЕЗІНФОРМАЦІЇ при РНБО України):
Oh, what do we see here? You channel "resident", ha ha. Ukrainians consider it as russian informational warfare. And even russian nazionalists consider it the same! So sad for you!
Yep, this is what it is - a lie that has nothing to do with reality.
Yep. Even 72 drones are not so much to counter russian horde. So the fact that ukrainian defence order as much as it can - do not tell about anything in general.
Because Ukraine don't produce light combat drones by itself. And western countries even now do not allow to order something from them. Easy answer.
Of course yes, so we have a neutral source for such information.
Oryx blog
Due to Oryx information (strong cheked) Ukraine lost 9 Bayraktar TB2 UCAV
This is not exact number, since Oryx add only those with visual proofs. For example, russia lost TWO su-25 aircraft since the start of war, but at Oryx list there is only 1, because second one was lost on russian territory and there no photo about it (for obvious reasons).
1st loss - 03.04.2022
2nd loss (kind of ironic) - 05.27.2022
https://t.me/fighter_bomber/7384
fighter_bomber is russian avia channel with a lot of ruskies propaganda about brave russian pilots killing "filthy nazi".
A little math:
On March 25, 2022, the Russian Ministry of Defense reported about 35 bayraktars destroyed out of 36 in total in service with Ukraine, then, apparently, the Russian side was guided by the same sources as the CNN, Reuters and Bloomberg at that time.
25th of March - 35 bayraktars out of 36 - destroyed (the Russian Ministry of Defense)
However, this week news was released on the above-mentioned Ukrainian website Defense-UA, and it turned out that Ukraine had from 60 to 96 bayraktars in service, considering that one bayraktar complex contains 6 drones (*):
"Since February 24, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have received up to 50 Bayraktar TB2
strike and reconnaissance drones from the Turkish company Baykar
"Since February 24, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have received up to 50 Bayraktar TB2
strike and reconnaissance drones from the Turkish company Baykar
Before start of the war : 25 bayraktars at service.
Since February 24: + 50 bayraktars
Total - 75 bayraktars
In addition to that, the Russian Ministry of Defense in mid-April reported that it had discovered 12 bayraktar complexes (72 drones).
So, at April 15th there still was around 72 drones.
So, I have just one question:
To those who didn't get it
From russian words russia destroyed 35 bayraktars by March 25
Ukraine at total has 75 bayractars (by 28th of June !!! )
Russia at April discovered 72 bayraktar drones.
35 + 72 = 107
It exceed total number of ukrainian bayraktars even from future delivers (because 75 is number at 28th of June, again)
On May 10, 2022, one of the Ukrainian Telegram channels, citing a source in the presidential administration, said that 50 bayraktars were lost.
This is not "ukrainian channel". This is russian telegram channel is trying to mimic ukrainian source.
Two main proofs:
1. Russian nasionalists consider it as russian. Here is channel "Bulba de thrones" and his quote:
https://t.me/bulbe_de_trones/1108
This is not his frist post with such fun fact
2. Ukrainian consider this channel as Russian intelligence. Infromation from ukrainian Center countering Disinformation (ЦЕНТР ПРОТИДІЇ ДЕЗІНФОРМАЦІЇ при РНБО України):
Oh, what do we see here? You channel "resident", ha ha. Ukrainians consider it as russian informational warfare. And even russian nazionalists consider it the same! So sad for you!
Even if this is a lie that has nothing to do with reality,
Yep, this is what it is - a lie that has nothing to do with reality.
then don't you think it's strange that the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, constantly suffering from a lack of resources, needed to order a dozen more of these drones (which not the cheap) and Ukrainian volunteers are organizing a fundraiser for the purchase of Turkish drones.
Yep. Even 72 drones are not so much to counter russian horde. So the fact that ukrainian defence order as much as it can - do not tell about anything in general.
Here comes another question, why do they not want to buy drones of Ukrainian origin, but instead they are sponsoring the Turkish president's Erdogan family
Because Ukraine don't produce light combat drones by itself. And western countries even now do not allow to order something from them. Easy answer.
It's precisely clear that it is not in the interests of the Ministry of Defense of any country to publicly report on the amount of their destroyed equipment.
Of course yes, so we have a neutral source for such information.
Oryx blog
Due to Oryx information (strong cheked) Ukraine lost 9 Bayraktar TB2 UCAV
This is not exact number, since Oryx add only those with visual proofs. For example, russia lost TWO su-25 aircraft since the start of war, but at Oryx list there is only 1, because second one was lost on russian territory and there no photo about it (for obvious reasons).
1st loss - 03.04.2022
2nd loss (kind of ironic) - 05.27.2022
https://t.me/fighter_bomber/7384
fighter_bomber is russian avia channel with a lot of ruskies propaganda about brave russian pilots killing "filthy nazi".