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Re: The call for Julian Assange || The WikiLeaks Manifesto - We all should read it
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nullius
on 07/07/2022, 22:03:40 UTC
I can do no better here than to quote the conclusions of indefatigable Glenn Greenwald:
<Context removed from internal quote by johhnyUA, here explained by nullius:  A short excerpt of a Greenwald article about Assange.  The article does not mention Russia.>

Glenn Greenwald is pro-kremlin troll (due to many well respected people) who justify russian army and tries to accuse ukrainian one. As a witness of russian action I can consider Glenn Greenwald as a Putin whore, and anyone who read and trust him - as Useful idiot.

A totally unjustified, viciously insulting off-topic attack on Greenwald shows the soundness of your judgment here.

What’s next?  Will you denounce my citations of Greenwald’s seminal reporting on privacy, security, and mass-surveillance?  Perhaps you will denounce Snowden as retroactively a “Putin whore”, whose disclosure of secret mass-surveillance programs must be wrong because America must not be criticized?  It is interesting that Snowden is only in Russia as an asylee, because the only alternative for him is an American prison.

Only Russia is evil.  Russian evil not only relevant to all topics, but the primary topic in all topics.  If you do not comply with the groupthink of the war psychosis, then you are The Enemy(TM).  It shows your thought process.

For the record:  I do not agree with Greenwald about everything; to the contrary.  I am independent, but I lean pretty far to the right.  I was pro-Greenwald years before Greenwald suddenly became popular on the right—back when speaking favourably of Greenwald could get me treated as having cooties in some circles, due to his lifestyle.  Well, I am independent; I did not need Tucker Carlson’s stamp of approval to form my opinion of Greenwald.  I simply recognized that Greenwald is a straight shooter on some issues of overwhelming importance.

Hereto off-topic, but relevant to your post:  American warmongering.  I noticed that at least twelve years ago, Greenwald dared to criticize the sacrosanct Obama administration for continuing and worsening some Bush war policies.  The mainstream “antiwar” American left suddenly shut up and toed the line, when the U.S. president was changed from (R) to (D).  Greenwald called them out for it:  He is honestly, consistently opposed to America’s wrecking of other nations.  I highly respect that—as, of course, I also respect his stances on privacy and on the freedom of speech.

Was Greenwald a “Putin whore” for opposing American policies in the Middle East?  If not, why is he one now, simply for applying the same principles to the American security state’s years-long belligerent policies towards Russia?  You brand him a “Putin whore” because he is not a hypocrite, and he does not change his principles according to popularity or political convenience!

The over-the-top way that you are attacking Greenwald, Assange, and (in multiple threads) me, I would suggest that you are an “American whore” if I wished to descend to your level of discourse—or if I wished to insult actual working whores, some of whom are good Bitcoiners.  I wish neither, so I will simply point out that your argument amounts to hating anyone who does not blindly hate Russia.


Off-topic—but unfortunately relevant, insofar as I have been insulted as a “Useful Idiot”:

Don’t you care that innocent Russians and Ukrainians are dying because the U.S. professional nation-wreckers decided to blow up that part of the world?  I wish that the war could stop.  I am outraged at the U.S. and NATO for causing it.  And I absolutely will stand up here on the Bitcoin Forum against the U.S. propaganda system’s censorship, misinformation, disinformation, and one-sided demonization of Russia.

My post history reflects that I have been all along consistently opposed to the American Empire.

I will not let anti-Russian trolling further drag me into an off-topic debate, on a thread about the injustice against Assange.


The same problem with Julian Assange: He hated USA so much that step-by-step turned to be ruskie-chinesee whore. No no empathy for him. I'm not glad about what happened to him, but as it said in russian proverb: "Пoмep Hикoдим - нy и XУЙ c ним"

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You are making the Russians and the Chinese look good here.  Reading your argument, I feel favourably towards them.

Your problem:  You hate Russia so much that you will betray every principle, and attack anybody, from sheer spite against anything that is not actively anti-Russian.  No matter who they are, where they are, or what their reasons!  To you, anyone who does not hate Russia is The Enemy(TM).