Dortmund did not manage to get a win in their friendly game against valencia, and they lost with such a large score 3 1 and they only managed to score from the penalty spot, its not looking good for dortmund i guess we will see bayern a champion once again.
seriously, does anyone in this thread believe that Dortmund have any chance of being champions? would anyone bet on it? looking at Dortmund it's clear they are weaker than last season so don't expect them to have any chance of being champions, the bundesliga already has champions in advance and we all know that, the only thing we need to see is how other teams are doing if you go out and we place bets on the games