Thanks for that link.  I did end up watching the whole interview which was about 1 hour and 26 minutes...

Of course, the vast majority of the interviews of Saylor involve a lot of very good content, and I almost always learn something from Saylor -- even if it might merely be some reiterations of previous discussed ideas into another kind of package.

So, yeah Saylor is still just getting past his second year in bitcoin, and it seems to me that the very first 6 months to a year, he would either shy away from getting into any discussions of various shitcoins, whether referring to Ethereum or any other shitcoin, and this particular interview revealed a much more assertive stance to against both ethereum and other shitcoins more generally.. and he even used the term shitcoins a few times.. which shows a more learned summary of what the various altcoins are and there ain't one of them that really does anything special that bitcoin cannot already do.. ..

...and one of the points when he was talking about ethereum's monetary and ethical problems, he conceded that ethereum does some cool shit, and so then he went into some examples of various kinds of cool shit that could be done by several different companies.. but the mere fact that ethereum does cool shit does not thereby give them permission to scam people in the various ways that it ongoingly does through it's already existing design and the various other ongoing and never ending upgrades that also seem to be built into its design.. ... so those were some more deeper ways to summarize some of the overall problematic ongoing legal and ethical issues with ethereum... but it does not stop the founders and developers from ongoing pumping it and builiding various network effects.. which Saylor conceded that Ethereum does have increasing network effects going for it...

It's a good interview overall.. especially if you have not seen a recent one of him with the lessening of the reservations in regards to decently-well informed shitcoin bashing.