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Re: Getting the Bitcoin Wikipedia article to the Good or Featured category
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realdantreccia
on 14/08/2022, 04:25:37 UTC
That claim needs a source that verifies that Wei Dai's b-money proposal was originally published on Cipherpunks mailing list in 1998. Anyone got a link to a verifiable source that can back this claim?

Apparently, it was never actually "published" on Cypherpunks mailing list, just announced there. (Technically it was published on my "home page", as we used to say.) The original announcement can be retrieved from http://cryptome.org/cpunks/cpunks-92-98.zip, which is an archive of the list from 1992-1998. There are also two papers in Google Scholar that cite the 1998 b-money article (without mentioning Cypherpunks):

http://www.hashcash.org/papers/hashcash.pdf
http://cs.uccs.edu/~cs591/securityEngineering/jikzi-cpw.pdf

Here's the Cypherpunks post/announcement:

From: Wei Dai <weidai@eskimo.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 08:07:43 +0800
To: cypherpunks@cyberpass.net
Subject: PipeNet 1.1 and b-money
Message-ID: <19981126153349.A12001@eskimo.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain



I've discovered some attacks against the original PipeNet design. The new
protocol, PipeNet 1.1, should fix the weaknesses. PipeNet 1.1 uses layered
sequence numbers and MACs. This prevents a collusion between a receiver
and a subset of switches from tracing the caller by modifying or swaping
packets and then watching for garbage.

A description of PipeNet 1.1 is available at
http://www.eskimo.com/~weidai.

Also available there is a description of b-money, a new protocol for
monetary exchange and contract enforcement for pseudonyms.

Please direct all follow-up discussion of these protocols to cypherpunks.

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From cypherpunks@MHonArc.venona  Wed Dec 17 23:17:14 2003
From: Steve Moyzis <smoyzis@ameritech.net>
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 08:26:32 +0800
To: cypherpunks@cyberpass.net
Subject: PipeNet 1.1 and b-money
Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.19981126175936.4c4f8cc2@mailhost.chi.ameritech.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain



I don't know if this was supposed to have gone to Bugtraq, or it came to me
because I 'visited' their "snoop server" acoupla times.  If you already rec'd
the original, then "Never Mind".

>Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 15:33:49 -0800
>From: Wei Dai <weidai@eskimo.com>
>To: cypherpunks@cyberpass.net
>Cc: onions@itd.nrl.navy.mil
>Subject: PipeNet 1.1 and b-money
>Sender: owner-onions@itd.nrl.navy.mil
>
>I've discovered some attacks against the original PipeNet design. The new
>protocol, PipeNet 1.1, should fix the weaknesses. PipeNet 1.1 uses layered
>sequence numbers and MACs. This prevents a collusion between a receiver
>and a subset of switches from tracing the caller by modifying or swaping
>packets and then watching for garbage.
>
>A description of PipeNet 1.1 is available at
>http://www.eskimo.com/~weidai.
>
>Also available there is a description of b-money, a new protocol for
>monetary exchange and contract enforcement for pseudonyms.
>
>Please direct all follow-up discussion of these protocols to cypherpunks.
>

Love the response first made on that archive you recommended that I download. Carbon copy shows Smiley