@franky1: Describing o_e_l_e_o as "vile beyond belief" is a little uncalled for, no? I'm not financially incentivized to endorse mixers but I still agree with every point I've read that o_e_l_e_o and LoyceV have made on this issue (in this thread and others).
certain few people (theres about a dozen) pretend they are the whole community. and they only listen to their own like minded mindsets that confirmation bias each other to pat each other on the back, and kiss each others ass when they repeat the same mantra their buddies have said.
these certain individuals have for hundreds of posts in many topics been trying to tell thousands of other people that bitcoin is broke or not fit for purpose. trying to then advertise a service or subnet as the solution that everyone should use. even though these services/subnets cause more issues for people.
locking value up with middlemen to then play around with and then give back value at a later time. where by these services/subnets actually red flag users value.
the vile part is mainly at his incessant effort of lying and exaggerating to say how he thinks bitcoin is broke, not fit. and/or already 100% dirty to try to scare normal clean people into getting dirty and enter the swamps of dirt(services/subnets) with him just so he can have a better chance of escaping his swamps with their clean coin and leave them with the muck
they know les than 1% use subnetworks like LN and mixers. they know that small swamp pool of users are just stirring value amungst themselves and they know that it not helping them look clean if only dirty people are jumping into the swamp. so they are desparate to lie, deceive and exaggerate some weird fantasy utopian dream about their service/subnet. and then they also try endlessly to call out bitcoin as the nightmare, just so they can scare people into jumping into their swamp