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Re: These new EFFICIENT x11 algos everyone is talking about ?? BULLSHIT or real?
by
smolen
on 04/04/2014, 22:58:03 UTC
5. is it more asic resistant that qrk?
ASIC implementation of X11 would be a bit simpler and a bit less effective (in terms of performance gain over GPU per mm^2 of die space) than implementation of Quark algorithm.
X11 is rather straightforward, there are some caveats inside hash functions, but for well known hashes it would be just concatenation of published implementations.
For Quark algorithm one can implement 9 hashing stages, 3 of them will be paired - e.g. calculate Keccak and JH in parallel, then discard one of results. Or, to save die space, it's possible to implement 6 hashing cores and some dispatching and routing logic around them.
Anyway, the best ASIC protection is small capitalization of altcoins Smiley

7. is it x12, x13, x99 going to be better? will we need to fork all of the coins over and over again?
Blindly chaining hash functions could theoretically lead to increased collision rate.

EDIT:
SHA-256 was optimized to the bone with Bitcoin, it was over 99% efficient compared to a "perfect" miner that didn't waste any ops anywhere because it only had a few ops here and there that were necessary but not part of the algorithm
Exactly. I expect SHA3 GPU miners to be optimized to the same level very soon.