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Re: Mixers that mix bitcoin without letting it be obvious that it came from a mixer?
by
philipma1957
on 25/08/2022, 01:49:44 UTC
try and show me anywhere on the blockchain where by it shows in raw transaction/block data. the products you have bought at any time

.. hmm.. you cant?
then the blockchain is not the problem

the problem is services/businesses..
it doesnt matter if you bought a sex doll or a candy bar, drugs or a office chair. by using certain services that are red flagged as suspicious. you will be red flagged and put on a watch list

these regulated services are not tracking you because of what you bought or announcing to the world what you bought. they are putting people onto watchlists because they are doing suspicious things.

i have not used LN or liquid or mixers with my stash. and i am not on any watchlist.
yep. 10 years and thousands of transactions later.. im still not on a watch list..

so dont pretend that just buying a office chair or a sex doll or candy or other things is going to get people put onto watch lists simply because they didnt use a mixer.. the actual fact is the opposite. by using a mixer no matter what you bought previous to its use. will put you on a watch list.

you or i, dont have to like their rules. but to atleast understand the rules you can learn how to avoid being on a watch list even if you use funds innocently


as for the services that do share information(something else to be angry about). dont cry that they do it and pretend they shouldnt. realise the reality.. they are regulatory required to do it. so knowing you are friends with a group of people that you share a certain mindset with at many exampled times.. look who their idols are
and look who is paying their idols.
and you will find DCG.. who own things like LN liquid.. but also own chain analysis and several prominent exchanges
so while your buddies are pointing fingers in all other directions trying to blame others.. look at the route of the problem.

the crowd that are advertising mimblewible(tumblers), mixers, AEC(liquid,ln,monero) de-fi, and other things.. are the same group that are advertising to use those suspect services which end up generating profits for other services their idols own

yep by using a mixer gets you watchlisted by chainanalysis that sells that info to exchanges and passes info to them who pass it onto regulators. and also at the exchange level the exchanges then share your info with other exchanges at a profit.

understand the games being played against you under the false guise of "privacy" when the actual adjective is "profit"


as for the exaggeratiosn that "government watches everyone 24/7"
i said this many times before in topics whree scertain people use scare tactics to advertise services..
the governmetn does not have millions of employees to watch hundreds of millions of citizens 24/7. they instead delegate businesses to watch over their own customers..
take just coinbase with over 60million customers.. take kraken, and other crypto services all situated in san fransisco county..
there are reports and studies done that show only 200k SAR's were sent to government in 2021
less than 0.3% of just coinbase customers thus about 0.1% over all for all MSB in SFC

but guess what was the main red flag trigger of them 0.1% .. yep using tools known to be red flag triggers
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5409206.msg60729993#msg60729993
yep using anonymising tools even if funds were not criminal used

My mom worked for the IRS
My wife worked for the IRS