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Topic
Board Bitcoin Discussion
Re: Bitcoins are Not Real — Or how People Blindly Believe Nakamoto's Nonsense
by
Snowshow
on 25/08/2022, 19:20:41 UTC
For that matter, the internet isn't material either, but there are many sites on it, this forum for example. Stocks in the markets have long been digital, not physical, which, like bitcoin, can be displayed on your mobile phone screen. Sending a telegram message also consists of numbers. In fact, a lot of things are digital now, but for some reason bitcoin is the only scam. Strange.

It's funny that OP doesn't seem to realize we live in a digital world where these numbers matter and have value.

Op said: The thing which we have just described is a kind of collective delusion, where people, based only on Nakamoto's post, consider themselves the owners of electronic coins, or generally, a digital asset. But all they have, and see with their own eyes to have, are numbers next to their addresses.

Following this thought, we have domains, we have sites, we build companies on these sites, we play online games and sell characters and items for a lot of money, we have digital photos, we buy digital art, we chat and date online, we work online, finish schools and get degrees online, but none of it matters because it isn't real. It's just code, numbers, right?

You got it all wrong. Those that you mentioned are the existing digital things. When we count those things, we get numbers that can be written digitally or on paper. If you buy 10 digital products you can have number 10 written on paper or digital invoice.

So you must be able to distinguish between the two things:

A) Real digital product
B) Number that counts the units of that product

In Nakamoto's system you have B) without A). A) is not real but exists only in people's imagination. You have numbers written on digital media(blockchan), but there's no digital product whose units would be counted with that number. The product is imaginary and mentioned in Whitepaper with two words: "electronic coin", that people now call bitcoin. Bitcoin is not real, but when you write "10 BTC" this creates the illusion it is. It creates the illusion that there's 10 units of an actual product. But no such product exists in reality. You people are the victims of that illusion. Read the OP.
 

So, if you buy bitcoins from me and I sign a poiece of paper saying that I sold them to you, does that make it complete? If yes, I'm fine with giving it to you. If not, It's a bit strange because you are willing to accept a deed signed by someone else, like a hosting company that gives you some disk space to build your website, or another company that says the domain name belongs to you.

You are fine with calling online game currency real, but not bitcoin? You lost me here.
I have one simple question for you: "what is bitcoin"? What are you offering me to buy?