Re: Tapeout discussion was: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com
I'm just quoting to preserve one of the worst self-burns in the history of Bitcointalk. Please don't delete my post, although it is trivial. The ambiguity in English language grammar is such a trap: Pharmacist dispensed with accuracy.
No, no it's not.
http://anysilicon.com/understanding-maskset-type-mpw-mlm-mlr-single-maskset/ - - "Before wafer production can start, a Maskset needs to be ready."
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCkQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FTape-out&ei=boVBU7vVN4S-2AW54YDIBw&usg=AFQjCNGNaHLrZFzwChOI0SjI8R2ELDKBAA&sig2=wqMMXt5hs-lnD8aUf2ctpQ
first sentience... "In electronics design, tape-out or tapeout is the final result of the design cycle for integrated circuits or printed circuit boards, the point at which the artwork for the photomask of a circuit is sent for manufacture."
uuuh, yeah, okay.
Doesn't change anything tho.
Did you even read them?
No, no it's not.
http://anysilicon.com/understanding-maskset-type-mpw-mlm-mlr-single-maskset/ - - "Before wafer production can start, a Maskset needs to be ready." (Quoted directly from the article)
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCkQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FTape-out&ei=boVBU7vVN4S-2AW54YDIBw&usg=AFQjCNGNaHLrZFzwChOI0SjI8R2ELDKBAA&sig2=wqMMXt5hs-lnD8aUf2ctpQ
First sentience... "In electronics design, tape-out or tapeout is the final result of the design cycle for integrated circuits or printed circuit boards, the point at which the artwork for the photomask of a circuit is sent for manufacture." (also a direct quote)
Mask is clearly a part of the design phase, and required BEFORE sent to fabrication,
and our chips have been sent to fab. Unless Intel is wrong too, lol.
this may help you understand too... http://computer.howstuffworks.com/euvl1.htm
http://users.wfu.edu/ucerkb/Nan242/L15-Photolithography.pdf
The mask itself is used in the lithography process to actually print onto the silicon. It's like a transparent photo that radiation is passed thru to burn the chip design onto the silicon, making the chips. When they submitted the artwork, or "mask" to the manufacturer, that was "Tapeout".
You do realize mask is before tapeout, right?
No, no it's not.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCkQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FTape-out&ei=boVBU7vVN4S-2AW54YDIBw&usg=AFQjCNGNaHLrZFzwChOI0SjI8R2ELDKBAA&sig2=wqMMXt5hs-lnD8aUf2ctpQ
first sentience... "In electronics design, tape-out or tapeout is the final result of the design cycle for integrated circuits or printed circuit boards, the point at which the artwork for the photomask of a circuit is sent for manufacture."
uuuh, yeah, okay.
Oh I forget, this is the interweb, people feel entitled to their own reality.
You have that right I guess.Doesn't change anything tho.
Did you even read them?
You do realize mask is before tapeout, right?
No, no it's not.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCkQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FTape-out&ei=boVBU7vVN4S-2AW54YDIBw&usg=AFQjCNGNaHLrZFzwChOI0SjI8R2ELDKBAA&sig2=wqMMXt5hs-lnD8aUf2ctpQ
First sentience... "In electronics design, tape-out or tapeout is the final result of the design cycle for integrated circuits or printed circuit boards, the point at which the artwork for the photomask of a circuit is sent for manufacture." (also a direct quote)
Mask is clearly a part of the design phase, and required BEFORE sent to fabrication,
and our chips have been sent to fab. Unless Intel is wrong too, lol.
this may help you understand too... http://computer.howstuffworks.com/euvl1.htm
http://users.wfu.edu/ucerkb/Nan242/L15-Photolithography.pdf
The mask itself is used in the lithography process to actually print onto the silicon. It's like a transparent photo that radiation is passed thru to burn the chip design onto the silicon, making the chips. When they submitted the artwork, or "mask" to the manufacturer, that was "Tapeout".
Since you obviously didn't read it....
You are in denial, and should begin a 12 step program maybe?...
Masking is complete before it can be sent to fab, simple as that.
One cannot tapeout without having a mask done.
The mask itself is used to print the circuits, so it's impossible to tapeout without it, because tapeout is the sending of the mask to manufacture the wafer.
You are in denial, and should begin a 12 step program maybe?...
Masking is complete before it can be sent to fab, simple as that.
One cannot tapeout without having a mask done.
The mask itself is used to print the circuits, so it's impossible to tapeout without it, because tapeout is the sending of the mask to manufacture the wafer.