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Logic being because that's just what Orcs do? They take over a nuclear plant then shoot at it so they're forced to shut it down before winter starts
And just in case readers have any resemblance of brain cells or critical thinking left:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/02/07/ukraine-russia-scholz-biden-macron/
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Can't wait for coverage of Orcs blowing up their own pipelines which they stopped themselves. Logic being that's just what Orcs do? After stopping the gas flow, they blow up the pipeline to make sure they loose all of leverage over Germany for the winter
At least elected member of the European parliament and former Polish Defense Minister says how it is, before he's "shown the way" and claims hacks or a joke
Wondering how low will EUR drop now
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Russia ‘endangers the whole world’ with strike on nuclear power plant in Ukraine
https://nypost.com/2022/09/19/russia-endangers-the-whole-world-with-strike-on-nuclear-power-plant-in-ukraine/Logic being because that's just what Orcs do? They take over a nuclear plant then shoot at it so they're forced to shut it down before winter starts
And just in case readers have any resemblance of brain cells or critical thinking left:
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Biden, in contrast, told reporters at the White House that “if Russia invades, that means tanks or troops crossing the border of Ukraine again, there will be no longer Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it.”
Asked how he could be sure, since it would be officials in Berlin, not Washington, who would make the decision, Biden told a journalist: “I promise you, we’ll be able to do it.”
Asked how he could be sure, since it would be officials in Berlin, not Washington, who would make the decision, Biden told a journalist: “I promise you, we’ll be able to do it.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/02/07/ukraine-russia-scholz-biden-macron/
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Nord Stream pipeline blasts were likely from explosions, not earthquakes, seismologist says
https://www.foxnews.com/world/nord-stream-pipeline-blasts-likely-explosions-not-earthquakes-seismologist-saysCan't wait for coverage of Orcs blowing up their own pipelines which they stopped themselves. Logic being that's just what Orcs do? After stopping the gas flow, they blow up the pipeline to make sure they loose all of leverage over Germany for the winter
At least elected member of the European parliament and former Polish Defense Minister says how it is, before he's "shown the way" and claims hacks or a joke
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U.S. Blew Up Russian Gas Pipelines Nord Stream 1 & 2, Says Former Polish Defense Minister
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2022/09/27/us-blew-up-russian-gas-pipelines-nord-stream-1--2-says-former-polish-defense-ministerWondering how low will EUR drop now
Interesting theory I reckon, the US being the one blowing up the gas pipe to ensure that Germany does not use it. However it does not make sense, since they anyway have Nord Stream I which is already shut off. If Germany / EU would want RF gas, they can still get it. Following the argument, the NS I goes through Ukraine, but Ukraine would not interrupt these due to risk of EU becoming less friendly.
Blowing the Nord Stream II looks like the RF army doing to kind of "make a point" on regards to EU aid and aligns well with a country that is under a Junta.
In my view, this is an act of war. The Orc army could have chosen any other target right? A bridge in France, a factory in Germany... Why do you think they would hit NS II? The answer is very simple: it is not in NATO territory and does not grant a NATO mobilisation which would end any expectation of even a technical "victory" in the invasion.
Now, what does YOUR critical thinking tell you about this?
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You seem to have some misunderstandings about Nord Streams. Nord Sream 1 does NOT go through Ukraine. Both Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2 pretty much go side by side from Russia to Germany
There are 2 pipes that make up NS1 and 2 pipes in NS2 for a total of 4 pipes. Both pipes of NS1 and one pipe of NS2 are confirmed to have been blown up. So far seems like one pipe in NS2 is holding pressure but we don't know the extent of damage to it. Regardless, estimates to fix range from few months (meaning after winter when it's useless to Germany/RU) to never.
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My mistake certainly, I did not use the right name, but in fact we are agreeing that there is a path through Ukraine. If you like picture, see that big 140 BCM line in the middle of Ukraine below? Well, that is a gas pipe with a capacity of 140BCM. Nord Stream is 55 BCM at maximum capacity.
So, still the argument that you are failing to address remains:
Short term, Germany is no more fucked or dependent on Ukraine that it was before, since the NS were pretty much closed from the RF end. The Nord Stream was mainly a RF doing, because Ukraine asked for payment for the pass through their territory, paid with German money. Old news.
Long term:
- Ukraine can be either integrated in Europe (EU or other treaty), in which case will favour the passage of gas. If you try to fuck with Germany in the EU, you are likely to run into trouble. There are many examples including Greece, Poland (which is close to getting internal sanctions) and Hungary.
- Or (much less likely) occupied by RF who does not need it to close or open the valve anyway.
So curiously, the long term effect is only the loss of a valuable infrastructure which damages the German investors in the project but not much more, that is why the retaliation hypothesis makes perfect sense. Also an infrastructure that is precisely in non-NATO territory.
Now, why would the US sabotage the pipeline?
- To fuck like you say his main ally in Europe? (stupid)
- To force Germany to be dependent of Ukraine (not impossible, but still fucking your allies).
The second one makes a 25% sense let's say, but the risk of an international backslash against US in case of being found clearly exceeds any veeeery long shot "advantage".