I thought that we are done with the Mt. Gox discussion because it's really a hot topic last August?

But in any case, we don't know if  the bottom is in, others say that yes, but there are still some who thinks that bitcoin can go as low as $10k-$15k, but it will have to happen next year.

So we will see, as for the altcoin, same movement, majority is like 80%-90% down from it's previous high but the bleeding might not stop.