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Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]
by
suchmoon
on 03/10/2022, 13:00:58 UTC
⭐ Merited by 1miau (2)
Don't believe i ever claimed that AfD still has it's original leadership or didn't become more radical/right since 2013. Great history, but how is that relevant to the current point or is it just a weak straw man attempt? Explain again how your (or mine or anyone for that matter) personal feeling are relevant here? Do you feel there are many sane people in Giorgia Meloni party? Does it somehow change the fact that she won and "current" AfD is getting more and more support currently sitting at 15%? Looks like they've been calling themselves Eurosceptic since 2013, and called for Dexit at least since 2019.

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super clear Cheesy only you do realize it's "possible" for them to do so right this second if they wanted to, and what Ukraine is asking for. But we both know that there's a cost to that (lost jobs, bankrupt industries, loss to competitive advantage, inflation, other financial repercussion, social and political unrest etc etc etc...), and clearly so far Germany has decided that the cost of that outweighs the current benefits. When will the balance tip to closure who knows, but the other huge unknown is the weather. How long do you keep you industries running before cutting them off in order to build some buffer for home usage? Do you plan for an average winter? 3yr coldest? 5yr coldest? 10yr? What do you do if winter is unusually cold, or at least colder than you prepared for? What happens if you shut off gas for industrial use too soon and winter turns out to be mild?

All well-rehearsed Kremlin bullet points, except most people in Germany don't fall for that BS and tend to think increasingly more like 1miau, who happens to be from Germany, I mean what a shocking turn of events this is not.

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(the poll question is "should we support Ukraine despite rising energy costs")

All of your points rely on NordStream just being a useless pipeline, can you then explain the tweet by former Polish Deputy Minister of National Defense/Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs and current elected member of the European parliament Radoslaw Sikorski thanking USA, is Poland supporting Russia now?

Still not getting how the whole freedom of speech / democracy thing works, are you? Hint: in normal non-Putin countries people, even MEPs, often have differing opinions, make stupid jokes, or could simply be wrong.