Well, the truth is, yes, it's like you say, it's something very optimistic, in fact that's something excellent for the moment you're living there, but as before and not only you say it, but also anyone who likes football can notice that Juve has lowered the level a lot, and that is something very bad, a 4th place is not worthy for Juve, Juve should at least be in 2nd place, I know that it is a lot to ask because the level of the other teams is very high, but judging by the history of Juve they should do something very good, and thus be able to convince others, the fans usually expect a lot from them and they have not responded as it is, that's what I mean.
Actually Juventus back to 4th standing place right now and have chance securing second position standing before international break out, next match opponent Lazio is opportunity for Juventus securing 2nd position if three points achievement. Juventus have slowly back to winning trend after poor started at domestic league and have been eliminated from Champion League. Juventus have waiting with other match result between Fiorentina vs Milan if want securing 2nd standing.
Next opponent Lazio is not easy team to beat because have quite well perform lately, last two won from last two matches make Lazio more confidence against Juventus and have the same opportunity securing 2nd standing position if three points achievement.