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Re: How can you verify the randomness that's coming from a hardware?
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larry_vw_1955
on 15/11/2022, 03:30:26 UTC
Quote from: n0nce on November 14, 2022, 06:44:35 PM
Quote from: larry_vw_1955 on November 13, 2022, 03:26:26 AM
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That's why I'd prefer to buy a device with open-source hardware.
then why not get the onerng. https://onerng.info/ you got something against it? seem like it checks off all your boxes. i doubt anything else comes close.
That looks very good, indeed! I wasn't aware of it; might even pick one up (even though I don't need a secure RNG right now).
I'd seen it before but i didn't appreciate all that it has to offer at the time. Now i can appreciate it more fully since there's not alot of comparable devices out there. plus the price seems very reasonable. even though i wish it was easier to get as in a domestic shipper inside the usa. apparently it would come from china so overseas shipping. not sure how much that is or how long it takes. but from my experience on ebay, things from china can come pretty fast. for small stuff. maybe you can do a review for us on this thing once you get it.  Grin

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If you've never heard of Foundation Devices, you may be interested in my review of their first device; review for the latest generation is going to be posted very very soon, as well in the Hardware Wallet section.
you did an AMAZING job with the review but $299 is way outside of what I consider reasonable no matter how many features it has. it would have to be able to mine bitcoin at a profit to make me even consider it. Angry

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I'd like to also mention https://betrusted.io/; they built the fully open-source Precursor so far.
Completely open-source to the very last detail.

 a handheld device that costs almost $600. i guess it has its use cases but not for any average crypto user it doesnt.

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Your brain won't select those 0s and 1s fully at random. It will unknowingly introduce patterns that decrease the entropy, i.e. how random your randomness really is.

Well that's why I don't rely on that method but anyhow, I got my bingo machine thing working. That, along with maybe dice and flipping a coin is all i ever need.

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Another analogy. I'm simply saying that although you might generate a unique string that no one has generated before, it doesn't mean that string is safe or secure.
can you give me an example of such a string that would not be safe that no one has ever generated before? you might be suprised that it's not as easy as you think. but give it a try. i'll be the judge.  Grin