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Re: What does it take to run a full node?
by
franky1
on 26/11/2022, 07:09:01 UTC
what you do not realise is that in the era of 2018 when gmax cried
there was a debate about core centralising the network

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5035144.msg46029392#msg46029392

heck even your girlfriend(Doomad) was open to thinking outside the core box. asking about decentralising the code base.

within days. he got recruited into the mindset that centralisation of code is good

Just responding to this particular fork of discussion now,

I know this is probably the last argument most people want to hear, but is this not a case where more independent implementations would result in less risk?

They would create more risk. I don't think there is any reason to doubt that this is an objective fact which has been borne out by the history.

I know this is probably the last argument most people want to hear, but is this not a case where more independent implementations would result in less risk?
No. This is nonsense that has been pushed by those actively trying to co-opt the network  

Back to the main purpose of the thread, though.  Yes, there are definitely some issues with multiple implementations if it's done in the wrong way.  It seems there's no simple answer to this one.  Aside from the things gmaxwell and achow101 mentioned, I suspect one of the primary flaws with multiple implementations is that much of the code would simply be copied from other implementations anyway.  It wouldn't necessarily ensure catching any present faults, even if people were taking the effort to run two different clients to compare results.  If they've inadvertently duplicated the bug, it won't make any difference.  Much like how any of the altcoins that may have been affected didn't spot duplicate inputs either.
heck. even gmax was having a tearful session arguing with cobra about the centralisation
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5035144.msg46080594#msg46080594

. then you see even cobra starts toeing the line of less implementations and sites hosting release are better
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5037612.msg46211591#msg46211591

so while windfurys girlfriend now says "its franky and only franky thinking this way"
she forgets her own mindset before she and others leaped into the centralised core fanclub of single implementation rules all

and then when i explain that segwit was not being used as much as promoted. he got super upset

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=11425;sa=showPosts;start=860

fact was segwit was not being used much in 2018,
i was highlighting that instead of using stats of P2WPKH
they falsely included P2SH as a "segwit count" even though p2SH was a count of legacy based multisig too.
and not all inputs or outputs of P2WPKH or P2SH were segwit

 but he didnt like it because he was founder of a company thats main income was an investment to get segwit activated and used by majority

which got gmax all riled up and felt like his efforts were being attacked by anyone suggesting to decentralise core and have other implementations aswell as having the efforts that segwit was not being used questioned too. totally made his head blow