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Re: [ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented
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n0nce
on 07/12/2022, 21:03:46 UTC
⭐ Merited by LoyceV (6) ,NeuroticFish (5) ,BlackHatCoiner (4) ,DireWolfM14 (1)
What could they say to make you think otherwise, though? It's neither possible to prove for anyone here that you or I are or are not state actors, either, right?
Fair question. I'm not entirely sure. Maybe something like "we are not related to or employed by any world government, our extremely high start-up capital came from XYZ source, we made X in donations this year, we think we have never been investigated or indicted or admonished by LE because of XYZ..." Doesn't really matter, it's just a theory anyway.
That's exactly what an undercover state actor would say, though, right? Wink
Besides; providing more info about themselves, how they are funded and whatnot, could dramatically increase their chance of getting busted like Tornado.

You presented CoinJoin as an alternative; how do you know the people running the coordinator aren't state actors? In case they make less money than ChipMixer and don't have the funds to finance a signature campaign, it could just mean it's an even better undercover operation, that is simply 'better disguised', no?
Especially if we have a look; one CoinJoin company is using blockchain analysis companies to sniff into its users' activities and potentially freezing their funds already. Doesn't it seem much more likely that these guys could be connected / pressured by / used by a government; instead of ChipMixer?

What I'm trying to say is: the whole argument / discussion is pointless. Waste of everyone's time, really. You can't prove or disprove any of this.

Sorry for any inconvenience I may have caused to anyone in the thread.
No need to apologize. Cheesy On Bitcointalk everyone can share their opinion!
It's just.. Correlation doesn't prove causation and there can be alternative, equally as likely, explanations for all of the points you've raised. Which in my eyes, makes your 'theory' merely a relatively unfounded accusation.