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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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Gachapin
on 18/12/2022, 06:04:03 UTC
Even with all the calamity in the marketplace, Bitcoin has held up extremely well.  It's more stable than most other things even when you look at a 90 day chart.  When you look at what's happened over that time, it's amazing to see things so flat.  There was the FTX drop but not the volatility you'd expect afterwards.  More clear signs that we have to be in the accumulation phase.  Now is the time to be filling your bags with BTC and setting those bags on ice for 2 years.  If the paper Bitcoin problem gets solved, we could be in for real fireworks this next time around.
I fear paper Bitcoins will remain. A new sucker born every minute
Yep.. truth of the matter is that paper bitcoin will be hard to eliminate complete.. even though it is likely people will get burnt, and burnt and burnt when they do not adequately protect themselves during circumstances in which paper bitcoin are "at issue."

Look: you, me an OgNasty can go out for dinner and fun on the town, and then the bill ends up being 1.2 Bitcoin.. but we decide NOT to pay it all in full at the moment.. so maybe OgNasty covers for you and me, Gachapin.. and therefore we each owe him 0.4 BTC.. and we decide to do payments over the next 4 years... or maybe 2 years?  who knows?. we can figure out something... but in the process of agreeing to our paying back the guy with the BIG bucks (aka OgNasty), then we have created 0.8 BTC.. but hey, if we settle our bill in 4 years and pay back Ognasty for all the fun that we had out on the town, then we are back to normal after we pay him back.. and who's going to stop us from entering into such an arrangement if we all agreed to it?
Of course, we are free to make almost any contract even to our disadvantage, and we are free to trust each other or not.

However when customers buy 1 Bitcoin and they agree with the seller (exchange) that he'd hold it for them, that doesn't mean that they agree (or even know) that the same 1 Bitcoin is sold to several other people as well.

I doubt that we are saying anything different.  My main point was that our agreement results in our creation of money.. blame OgNasty for that because he granted us credit.

Sure, it is possible that we never end up paying him back.

The point is that if we took your example, the dinner we had wouldn't even exist (at least not enough for us both). So we'd owe him money (or BTC) for something we could never enjoy (both).