if its not appearing as a confirmed bitcoin UTXO when you feel that you have been "paid" its not bitcoin
For me, the fact that it's
guaranteed to be possible to get it on-chain is enough to trust LN and consider it to be Bitcoin. I get that we disagree, and I'm okay with that.
i hope you atleast are not watching TXID of a broadcast with your bitcoin node having RBF turned off
your counter party may have RBF on and later sends a previous commitment with higher fee.
which pools accept as replaced your view.. thius your waiting weeks thinking your first-seen is waiting/pending a confirm to settle
where as your counterparties other broadcast gets confirmed..
so i hope you lot atleast have RBF turned on to watch for double spends at unconfirmed relay and you lot are watching via UTXO of funding commit.. rather than TXID