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Re: Libertarians -- where are they now?
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GazetaBitcoin
on 14/01/2023, 17:47:36 UTC
i blahed it for a reasons..

i blahed it because it was unrelated to the subject lines. it was as if you were trying to throw as many words as you can at a wall and see which one sticks.

Actually, it was. There were two subjects in parallel.

- at first, 1miau alleged that "when there are no rules, chaos will arise"
- from here, I tried to explain that, out from chaos, spontaneous order may arise:

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Let's start with the chaos part. You say that "when there are no rules, chaos will arise". However, my dear 1miau, let's first remember what chaos is. And the simplest definition of chaos is that it represents "the perfect disorder". It's a disorder so well organized that you can see an order inside it. Does that make any sense? So, if chaos is a perfectly ordered disorder, what is the order? It is the cause of disorder. For example, we can say that the Universe, in its continuous expansion, it's just a combination of progressive disorder. But this disorder, as it expands itself, creates new orders and each of these orders can be identified with the initial order. So even inside chaos, which is disorder in its pure form, order is created. Therefore why would it be so bad for chaos to arise? All disorders will lead to new orders, in the future...

- from here another post followed, about the above mentioned spontaneous order:

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However, I have a different view here... There is a concept name Spontaneous order. It implies that people, by themselves, can organize themselves, even without an authority leading them to do it. Just like in the example with the overcrowded shop. From something which looks like chaos, with no visible order, a new order appears and people organize themselves, in order to be able to find their products on the shelves, pick them up, pay for them and go home. Peacefully.

- and from here I made an association between spontaneous order and catallaxy:

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And catallaxy can be seen into Bitcoin as well. According to Austrian school economist Friedrich Hayek, catallaxy is "the order brought about by the mutual adjustment of many individual economies in a market". From obvious reasons, since people associate by will, we can also say that catallaxy is a part of praxeology.

- and, since I mentioned also the praxeology, it was natural to define it, although it was not related to the subject; this is why I did not insist on talking about it:

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I will not enter in deep details about praxeology; it should suffice to say that praxeology is the science of human actions and it implies all the actions made by humans for a purpose. Uncontrollable actions, such as coughing or sneezing are not part of praxeology, as they are reflexive actions.

So, as you see, there was a logic between all subject lines. Perhaps it was too difficult to follow it, but it existed.

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I'm not convinced that has much, if anything, to do with Bitcoin, though.  Order didn't just occur all by itself. [...]

Not spontaneity.  Pure incentive.

Perhaps reading the upper part of this post may help you understand the connection I had in my mind for saying that?