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Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]
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paxmao
on 19/01/2023, 01:07:07 UTC
As I understand it, a cauldron was formed there for at least 400 fighters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, who heroically continue to resist without much chance of success after losing control over the dominant height. Good job Wagner.
After long months of negative success and some glorious retreats, Russia finally achieved something... Do you still dream about taking Kyiv?
For me personally, it’s enough for now that this year in Kyiv, for the first time in many years, there was no traditional torchlight procession in honor of Bandera. It is still unreasonable for Russia to take Kyiv now - together with Kyiv, it will have to take all the huge debts of Ukraine, which it has managed to do since the beginning of the special operation.

Remember back a few weeks into the war when you thought Russia was going to take Kiev and throw a parade by the end of last Spring?

In Kyiv on May 9 2022, a traditional parade will be held in honor of the victory of the USSR over Nazi Germany. It is naive and foolish to doubt it.

Imagine what you would've said then, how naive and foolish you'd think of someone that told you that Ukraine would retake more than half of the land Russia occupied, force Putin to draft civilians to fight, the Moskva would be sunk, the bridge to Crimea bombed, and almost a year later Ukraine would still be fighting.  
I still think that Ukraine committed a great stupidity by not making an unconditional surrender in March last year. Ukraine did not have, does not have and will not have a chance in confrontation with Russia. Any tactical success is simply an increase in the number of deadweight losses and an increase in the amount of debt to Western countries, for which future generations will have to pay.

Just classic. ''Nazis'' in Ukraine is terrible thing, but everything is ok when criminals like serial killers, pedophilles, rapers and etc is fighting on your side. Many of time had lifteime sentences. Lifes of these peoples don't have big value in Russia, but I just remind that if they will be lucky enough to comeback alive from Ukraine, they won't get back in prisons and I'm just wondering how they will integrate in your society.
You better worry about your future. Russia has stood and will stand, but as for the prospects for Ukrainian statehood, I am less sure that it will be possible to preserve it at least in some form.

Very thoughtful of you to tell others what they should worry about. Meanwhile the RF is being played into using up the economic resources, the manpower and the political capital into a war that, even if "won" is already lost - What would you be "occupying"? A country flattened to ruins and full of people that do not want Russians there? A country in which you will need permanent military presence? A new breeding ground for possible terrorism?

But do not worry - that is not going to happen. The US strategists know that Russia is not a country to be taken militarily or by killing their people, or by taking up territory. As the cold war proved, all they have to do is embarking the RF into an attrition war - similar to the cold war that broke the USSR, but this time probably faster.

As for you individually, well... when there is an economic shitstorm chances are that you, your friends and your family get caught into it so take up your own advice and get ready for the crash.