Also, I am currently about half way towards copper, I have got no rush whatsoever.
I am very casual.
VIP copper you mean? What is that? It's a new rank there?
It is the first of the VIPS ranks on Stake.
When one is bran new, one does not have a rank by starting gambling one progresses towards Copper, obviously the progression depends on the total wager.
Copper takes 10,000$ to reach, if I recall correctly.