It was essentially a begging thread which obviously isn't allowed and I think the no begging rule is one of the oldest here.
So now we are going to call any topic that has donation address a begging?!
Not all donations are begging. If someone wants to send you or me money as a donation then they can go to our profiles and do so. You can donate to anyone you want. What you can't do is create a thread to try solicit donations. If a thread contains a sob story and address urging others to donate then I'd say yes, that clarifies as a begging thread.
I didn't see Yahoo beg at all in this thread, I even think he added donation addresses later when people started asking about that, he just said that everyone can find address in his profile (
archive can confirm this).
This was certainly not the only thread that collected donations, I can clearly remember one topic from Bruno AKA Phinnaeus Gage and his medical condition, we all know outcome of that.
I can also find several donations campaigns for disasters and health issues, you can't call all donations begging, even Bitcointalk forum had donation address for years.
You can't really say
I'm not asking for donations then literally ask for donations both in the thread and directing people to your profile. Whilst some people will or would have genuine reasons for asking for money and it may seem harsh not allowing them in certain instances I think a blanket ban on them is wise unless we're going to scrap the rule completely or open up some sort of donation board which I think would just be a messy nightmare.
It was essentially a begging thread which obviously isn't allowed and I think the no begging rule is one of the oldest here. I'm suspired nobody reported it earlier to be honest. If it was made by any other account it would have been reported half a dozen times and trashed within an hour of being posted.
do mods have to
wait for a report before doing anything?
There were two other staff members who replied in that thread, why didn't they stop it
No, they don't have to wait but it's the first time I saw it and most won't see it unless it's reported. Only Globals and dedicated sub mods could handle posts/threads in there as well. Maybe the other mods didn't think it violated the rules or maybe some mods think certain people should get a pass but I can't speak for everyone.
I'm not going to speak for all mods, just myself. And my voice has no more value than others.
Giving documents or invoices about a heavy operation doesn't prove anything. Everything can be easily faked.
As a mod or just a member, I don't want to have personal and sensitive information about other members.
And above all, I (we ?) am not a doctor and how can I judge if this or that disease is eligible for donations ?
Heart transplantation. OK ?
Cancer. OK ?
Amputation. OK ?
Sex change. OK ?
Breast implant ?
My dog needs surgery. Is it OK ?
Where is the limit? What if you are rich in a poor country or poor in a rich country ? What do we do? Do we have to ask for a tax declaration as well ?
Exactly. People could easily fake this stuff or just take advantage of being in hospital for a minor surgery as well. You could go in for a routine op, take some pictures of you hooked up to an IV or oxygen and make out like you're dying of cancer or something and have weeks to live. It's actually not that uncommon and people are always getting called out for faking diseases and illnesses. There was a YouTuber recently who faked cancer and received a lot of money in donations:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGcOZ4XPHKEIf you want to talk about your health problems... why not. If people are touched by your story, they will contact you by PM to ask you for an address to make a donation. That's all you can hope. Because if we open this Pandora's box, there will be abuse.
You could certainly have a thread to talk about your personal afflictions if you wanted to but you can't do that and then stick a donation address in it. I would still find it a bit sketchy either way and most people doing so would probably be doing it knowing it'll garner them at least some sympathy likely along with some donations as well. I might have a bit of sympathy if someone was genuinely struggling with their medical bills or whatnot but not to just fund someone's alleged take-out orders whilst they were apparently in hospital.