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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
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JayJuanGee
on 02/03/2023, 19:04:54 UTC
JJG misses the point entirely in favor of hammering another roundabout wall of text, which is unsurprising.

Its not about keeping the WO free of shitposts (an impossible and unnecessary task). Its about teaching the value of self-respect and encouraging others to better themselves rather than take the lazy route.

By rewarding merit farmers, you are teaching them that making a living through bullshitting and sucking up pays off. You actively contribute to their inability to grow as a human being.

Aren't you the greatest thing since sliced bread.   Roll Eyes

I am not sure whether I completely agree with you at least in regards to there being any need to have many options for paying; however, I do agree that the facts of the ways of the world is that we already have a lot of options, and if we have a lot of options, in accordance with Gresham's law, we likely would want to spend our less valuable assets prior to spending our more valuable assets .. and each of us should be able to conclude that bitcoin is amongst the best of assets, if not the best asset, so we should not want to spend that one first - yet there could be situations in which we might want to spend and replace bitcoin or that we are already overly invested into bitcoin and in that regard, there is no problem to spend some of our bitcoin because we are relatively overallocated to it.
My reason is because a lot of countries do not have internet every where. I lot of places in Africa need offline money and sending transactions offline with Bitcoin is difficult. It can be done by giving someone a seed of a set amount but that is not ideal. We need different currencies for different things. Bitcoin is the king when it comes to global transactions but when it comes to local and quick transactions physical might be better not always but in certain times.

Fair enough.. I am not against physical cash or other physical ways of exchanging value (even barter).. and surely there are likely going to continue to develop more ways to stay pegged to bitcoin, but it could be on 2nd, 3rd or higher layers.. so the transaction might be within a system that is not really having to be connected to the web.. and might even have some physical components or cross chaining with some kind of other token.. whether tokens that are pegged or tokens that might end up causing fractional reserves if they get out of hand..

Yep.. for sure problems if you get old and you might not have adequately prepared .. and some older people might ONLY have a pension or social security and maybe their house and they might not have other assets and their pension and social security might not be adequate to cover their expenses, so they might have a dilemma about what to do about their living situation, and it is not necessarily a comfortable situation.. and surely there are some folks who might not even own any real estate, so they have even fewer options when their fixed incomes might be failing to keep up with their ongoing monthly expenses... so it may be too late for those people to invest in bitcoin and they should have had been investing in the past (and yeah, we did not really have bitcoin until recent times, either).

That is only if you have the liberty of a pension in the 1st place because many countries rely on their family and children to take care of them when they get older. Pensions are a western privilege but even then they are not good when you factor in inflation. I think a lot of people do not own real estate and are still paying off their mortgage up until they are 50-60.

Can't disagree with you about any of that.

hahahahaha

I have had similar experiences.  Talk them for a little bit, and they get less excited when it comes to figuring out how much they are able to comfortably invest... and the overwhelming majority fail/refuse to take any action.... so from my perspective, that's on them.  I did my part.
That is all we can do is our part but it is up to them if they drink from the water and take it further most people do not and they will forever be poor. I am not saying that Bitcoin will make them rich because a lot of people do not have the time or investment to profit off of it in a big way but you will be in a better place then you are now if you invest in Bitcoin even if it is only a few 1000 in a couple of years.

That's right.. there is no need to get to fuck you status from bitcoin in order to benefit from bitcoin.. but there is likely a need to either have a 4-10 year or longer holding ability or to just get lucky and to catch the wave at the right time if there ends up seeming to be an opportunity to cash out profits in a shorter term period because of an attempt to protect from a possible, potential (and dare we say inevitable?) down that follows up (especially extreme and prolonged up.. that does happen from time to time.. ).

sometimes I am mean about it, even in real life.. but i cannot help myself.. and if they are adamant and confrontational about their choices to invest in shitcoins, then likely we cannot end up in a battle.. we just have to agree to disagree and I will not concede that I think that they are doing anything worth while, except perhaps gambling... but whatever, I am around bitcoin and into bitcoin to invest, not gamble.

I have sat through many conversations about shitcoins with my friends and they always get angry when I call them shitcoins Cheesy it is my way of coping because most of the shit they invest it is brain numbing.

Yes... it can sometimes be a bit too confrontational if someone continues to ask you to stop calling them shitcoins.. even though that is how you think about them.. but sometimes, there still can be some fruitfulness in the conversation to continue talking about it and agreeing (in the interim) to refrain from using the term shitcoin.. at least for the purpose of that particular conversation.